Hillarysworld

Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
Post Info
TOPIC: Hillary’s Cretan Dilemma (True Liberal Nexus 12/07/10)


SuperModerator

Status: Offline
Posts: 1788
Date:
Hillary’s Cretan Dilemma (True Liberal Nexus 12/07/10)
Permalink  
 


http://trueliberalnexus.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/hillarys-cretan-dilemma/

With most of the Left finally realizing that the anticipated Unicorn & Rainbow Camelot is actually become The Nightmare on Pennsylvania Avenue, an ever-louder chorus of voices are speaking the previously unspeakable: Obama should not run again. Since Hillary Clinton was the logical, rational, best choice for president in 2008, only to be shoved aside by hopey-changey lemmings, eyes now inevitably turn to her as an alternative in 2012. While in Bahrain this week, The Secretary of State was asked yet again whether she intends on running for office. Her response:

“I think I will serve as secretary of state as my last public position, and then probably go back to advocacy, and probably on behalf of woman and children….”

This follows an appearance last month on Fox News, where Clinton declared,

“I am very happy doing what I’m doing, and I am not in any way interested in or pursuing anything in elective office….”


In truth, nothing at all can be gleaned from Clinton’s comments. First, she deflected these questions in the most round-about way possible. Second, the specific question on FOX was whether she’d run as obama’s VP. Third, whatever Hillary’s true intentions, It was the only possible thing she could say.

Clinton is either:

a) definitely running, or;

b) undecided about running, or;

c) definitely not running.

Whichever is true, her on-the-record response would be the same. It’s unthinkable for a cabinet member to publicly announce their intention to run against the sitting president. To do so at this point would be fatal to her career. However, even if Clinton were not considering a run, certain political advantages would still accrue by keeping people wondering.


With her public statements so unrevealing, what other signs can we parse to divine Hillary’s intentions? Here are a few to ponder:

* During the recent mid-terms, Bill Clinton made a point of being seen campaigning for every Hillary delegate from 2008. That simply could have been the right thing to do, but it may also have sent a message: Whose team do you want to play on? Whether that means Hillary Clinton ’12, or just the Clintonista candidate, is unclear.

* Evan Bayh has done everything — not seek reelection to his office, raise a ton of money, pull together a campaign team — that one does before running for president. Bayh is a long-time Clintonista. Whether his role is a “rabbit” to let Hillary enter the race later (with VP as the reward), or the actual Clinton Camp candidate, also remains to be seen. If Bayh did not run, that would be noteworthy.

* Why did the HRC 2008 campaign, which still exists as an entity, send an email last week asking for hefty donations to retire her campaign debt? In return, the donor would receive a signed copy ($50 for paper, $250 for DVD) of her 2008 convention speech, in which, as the email reminds us, Hillary spoke of the “determination to keep going, often in the face of enormous obstacles.” The timing is curious. Is this a simple attempt to wipe out that debt by tapping into Hillary love agitated by the recent speculations? Or is a way to take bearings of the level of support?

* A pronounced break with obama on foreign policy, followed by a resignation, would be the strongest indicator of an impending run by Clinton. The State Dept. and White House have spatted frequently, most recently in September over Clinton’s comparison of the drug cartel situation in Mexico to that of Colombia two decades ago, but these differences have been smoothed over so far. A bungling of a flare-up in the Korean situation, however, or the White House dragging its feet on wikileaks, would provide more than sufficient cause for Clinton to break with obama. If she does, stay tuned.


1) We need Hillary Clinton as the Democratic nominee in 2012 — she’s the only one who can run both as a Democrat and against the obama legacy. She fought him in ’08, and by escaping the Senate, she is untainted by obama’s Superfund Site of toxic legislation. Her unique broad-based appeal can also help win back the demographics alienated by the obamalonians;

2) We know Hillary can win the general election. She currently owns the highest approvals of any potential candidate;

3) We know Hillary is eminently suited to fixing the dire condition of the Nation. There may be others, but she has proven her abilities;

4) Hillary knows all this, too.

Whatever her designs, she cannot make a single move so long as obama remains the presumptive nominee. Our first duty as true liberals is to ensure that Barry goes on permanent vacation. Then ask Hillary the question again.




__________________

4145952823_2e0edce16f.jpg

Nobody puts THIS baby in the corner!


Platinum

Status: Offline
Posts: 112
Date:
Permalink  
 

I can't WAIT for the day she breaks from the fraud, using some perfectly sensible reason to resign as SOS. She needs to do it soon.

__________________


Platinum

Status: Offline
Posts: 179
Date:
Permalink  
 

won't happen. this wikileaks thing is going to be used against her every which way but loose. I've already seen posters on Fox news that are blaming hillary for the leak, assange's arrest, the cyber war going on, etc. This was all the ammo the right wing needed.

__________________


Platinum

Status: Offline
Posts: 460
Date:
Permalink  
 

jdona wrote:

won't happen. this wikileaks thing is going to be used against her every which way but loose. I've already seen posters on Fox news that are blaming hillary for the leak, assange's arrest, the cyber war going on, etc. This was all the ammo the right wing needed.



I have to agree with this assessment as well, jdona.  But wouldn't it be great if just once the electorate could get away from being spoon-fed by the media and do their own homework.

But then again, if they had done that in 2008, HRC would now be POTUS.

 



__________________
Don't blame me...I voted HILLARY!

http://www.barefootfoundation.com/index_en.php

http://www.savethechildren.org/


Diamond

Status: Offline
Posts: 4567
Date:
Permalink  
 

So, we do what we can. All I can say is continue to write to Dem leaders, DNC core members, especially RBC members and engage them in dialog with reasoned argument (without injecting emotion) and from their viewpoint of the party's future. It's doable.

__________________
Democracy needs defending - SOS Hillary Clinton, Sept 8, 2010
Democracy is more than just elections - SOS Hillary Clinton, Oct 28, 2010

Madam Secretary Blog at ForeignPolicy.com
Project Vote Smart - Stay informed and engaged!
Page 1 of 1  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.

Tweet this page Post to Digg Post to Del.icio.us


Create your own FREE Forum
Report Abuse
Powered by ActiveBoard