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As a JFK/WJC/HRC Democrat, this article made me so mad and made me cry also. 

The Democrat party absolutely left me.

Jen the Michigander wrote:

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Same here, but that doesn't mean I've gone right wing like the HillBuzz guys.

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Jen, if anyone bothers to do the polling, I think the biggest surprise of this election may be how many GLBT are voting against the Dems and for their wallets.

The BS that Dems are the gay-friendly party has long left the station.  I think many are going to vote their wallet this time.

 

-- Edited by VotedHillary on Friday 29th of October 2010 02:10:09 AM

I have always been right wing lol but I haven't left Hillary.  I do consider myself part of a Black Conservative now.  So many of Hillary's black supporters have left PUMA and Hillary and have just become Black Conservatives.  I haven't left PUMA and never will nor will I leave Hillary.

I don't trust people like Rush for as far as I could throw them, and with Rush, that's not very far at all lol. Basically, Rush Limbaugh can go F himself.

When you hear Rush’s disciples tell the story of 2008, you’d think Rush and they are the ones responsible for the entire PUMA movement. So many times I’ve heard his disciples say — “You don’t even have any legitimate anger at the Democratic Party. Hillary had lost the primary, Obama had won, the only reason she won any of the races that she did is because we Republicans were voting for her in Operation Chaos.”

Well, no! First of all, let’s look at the timeline. This is where you guys get the story wrong from the gate. Operation Chaos did not start till late February/early March 2008. The caucus fraud however, the catalyst for why Hillary voters were so mad (eventually crystallized in the R-ByLaw-C Meeting of May 2008) — the caucus fraud occurred in mid February 2008. Before Operation Chaos. So no Rush, your Operation Chaos had nothing do with it. Hillary supporters were angry before you even got involved. So stop trying to take credit for what people of conscience were already speaking up against, while you guys were too busy playing your childish games.

Second, don’t think that you didn’t have a hand in getting Obama to where he is today. Heck, in some ways, you are even more culpable, because while one could argue that Democrats were just supporting Democrats, Republicans had a whole other logos going on. Note the following:

1) First, Republicans lowered the bar for Obama so much by electing Bush II. They made it so, by electing Bush, that any ole idiot could be elected President. I would venture that if Republicans hadn’t elected Bush, then I doubt the country would have been “ready” for such a moron like Obama. So strike one against the Republicans.

2) Then, it was the Republicans’ years and years of Clinton Derangment syndrome that gave the Obama campaign plenty of Republican delusion to hurl against Hillary and Bill Clinton during the primaries. In fact, the Obama campaign did employ many Republican talking points in their attacks against Hillary. So I would again remind Republicans when they say “Hillary would have been better, why are we stuck with Obama, waaah!”, that it was your decades old psychosis regarding the Clintons that gave Obama the “ammo” against the Clintons. Perhaps if you had not introduced such crazy badinage about the Clintons (and I’m being generous here) into the national zeitgeist, Obama would not have had the fodder that he did during the primaries. When Hillary could have stopped him, it was your decades of stale attacks with which Obama was able to keep propping himself up.

3) Finally, your indolence when it came to McCain is embarrassing. Republicans (sensible ones anyway) should have known by late 2008 that Obama would be a problem for this country, and that McCain was the last line available at the time against Obama. But no, instead of being out there helping McCain, what did they do? Tuck their tails and stayed home whining. Get out of here with that ****! As far as I’m concerned, the people who did that shouldn’t even be allowed to complain; and if they happen to be Republicans, then they are doubly guilty for letting who-knows-what get in the way of doing what was right, because as Republicans it should have been easier for them to vote for Republicans than expecting the rest of us to pick up the slack. And yet, where was the Republicans’ sense of patriotic duty back then? (You know, the thing that is supposed to transcend party lines?) Nowhere! They decided it was better to hold on to some petty sense of “McCain’s not as bat**** conservative as we want him to be so we’re going to take our ball and go home”, and in the process, let the country down. Shameful.

I could support an alliance with Hillary supporters and Rush Limbaugh on the basis of the cold logic that it serves both our interests at this time. Republicans however also need to realize that this mess is just as much (if not more) of their making, as it is anybody else.

Jen the Michigander wrote:

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Same here, but that doesn't mean I've gone right wing like the HillBuzz guys.

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STAMP!!

 

Thanks Jen and FS. I am keeping on eye on the Republicans. They should not be allowed to rewrite history for their own purposes.

I was so pissed when I first heard the Republicans try and take credit for PUMA via Operation Chaos that I had to shut them down. We all need to be mindful of people trying to coopt our work for their own purposes.

The fact of the matter is WE were the original Nobama coalition. Neither Republicans or Democrats can change that -- the record speaks for itself!!!