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Jen the Michigander · SuperModerator

when the dems screwed Hillary, they screwed america (Roseanneworld 3/6/10)

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

I agree with a lot of what she says but why in the world was she talking about The Republicians wanting to bring the confederacy back. Another American who needs to learn History. It was the Democrats who wanted to keep the confederacy not the Republicans it was the Repubicans who ended slavery.
Frankly I hope health care never gets solved. I am sick of this pointless debate Health care is not a right guarenteed by the Constitution. I am sick of government interferring in the lives of Americans it never works out right. Personally I think the whole health care planis a way to put more poor people in jail. Hillary has more important things to worry about and hopefully she will give up this health care reform BS and stop the foolishness of thinking its the government's job to take care of all Americans.
Europe is a mess and they are so bogged down with taking care of their lazy citizens that they can't even defend themselves. They must relay on us to take care of their needs. I don't want Americans to end up like the snooty Europeans. Lets stop trying to be like Europe and remain Americans

Building 4112 · Moderator

I know how she feels, and the efforts she put forth, and the lack of advancements for women
in politics, yea the dems screwed us. They've drawn a line in the sand, and we're not to cross over, but we are going to kick ass, and open doors regardless of that line barrier.

She says didn't like Hillary's vote on the war, BS. That's telling me she agreed with Obama
campaign to hike up the fact that she voted, and he didn't. Hell he said if he had been able to vote, he wasn't sure how he would have. Yet, Obama welcomed all the men who also voted into his circle and they didn't take the heat for their vote. And that pisses me off!
I'll never forget it.

She's got one thing right about the civil war - class differences & gender it was "rich man's war, and the poor man's fight" . But as far as loyalty to party, that is why you had brother against brother, and families pitted against families.

Do you think that women didn't protest the armies coming through towns and taking their
15 year old sons to war? Robbing them of everything. Not to many women spoke up, and those that did try to stop it, where put in their place, and punished by the men for not supporting their cause, and it didn't matter if you owned slaves or didn't, and regardless of what side their husbands, brothers, and Uncles were fighting on, the women were never respected, and certainly not from any soliders. That is why so many women aided in
dessertion, and those who were found out, they suffered brutally, including being shot on the spot.

Alot of men and women of the south defied the confederacy, and they were abused, arrested,
and forced into uniform, and families were left to starve. It was the poor folks who had
to survive the battlefields, and the women left to defend their hometown farms without protection. And then when the men did return home, they had to nurse them back to health
minus legs, and arms, and tried to restore their lively hood, which for the most part was gone forever.

There was alot of people then who hated the democratic party, many of them became republican. Sort of like me, I hated what the dems did to Hillary, so for the first time in
my life I voted for a republican. My loyalites no longer belong to a party, because they
are corrupt, and they hold women back in political partnership, and I will have nothing
to do with the negativeness they have protrayed on women in our society, and in politics.

Bloomer · Platinum

B4112.....thank you for a great read! You are so right, I too, was so infuriated, that I also for the first time in my life cast a republican vote. Then I went and re-registered Independant, not sure what I'm going to do about that before 2012, but I was that angry.

Sanders · Diamond

Yeah, lots to think about..

I have always looked at every candidate and mostly voted on the Dem side, but have voted on the Repub side on occasion.

Our fundamental beliefs on social, fiscal/economic, immigration, gun-control, military/defense is unlikely to change. So, I do not expect to swing and register Republican. I am just glad to have not registered Dem. Being Indy is immensely liberating.

I dont think we should feel compelled to register in a party. The only reason to do that is to participate in the primary process.. or to influence the primary and caucus processes.. which of course really need improvement.. so if you have that opportunity, I would request that you do stay Dem if you are a Dem and work towards that change.. TeamHilaryClintonForum's has some activism work in development on that which is probably very worthwhile.

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

I am voting for Hillary in 2012 election unless Obama decides to run for reelecection which I don't think is likely given his poll numbers.
I am disquested with the Democrats they have not heard the American people at all and after what they did to Hillary well that ends it for me anyway

rachel · Platinum

Hillarysmygirl16 wrote:

I am voting for Hillary in 2012 election unless Obama decides to run for reelecection which I don't think is likely given his poll numbers.
I am disquested with the Democrats they have not heard the American people at all and after what they did to Hillary well that ends it for me anyway

Oh he is gonna run he's already getting his team set up in Chicago(true). The republicans better come up with a viable canidate for Potus soon or I will do a write in. Any way it goes I don't see myself voting for Obama for a 2nd term.

Sanders · Diamond

rachel, For sure, he is going to run. They are already revving up the Chicago machinery. His campaign manager, Mr.Plough, is already at his service as of a month or so ago..

It is going to take that rating to stay way way low for another 10 months before Dems see the light that they need Hillary Clinton on the top of the ticket in 2012.

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

rachel wrote:

Hillarysmygirl16 wrote:

I am voting for Hillary in 2012 election unless Obama decides to run for reelecection which I don't think is likely given his poll numbers.
I am disquested with the Democrats they have not heard the American people at all and after what they did to Hillary well that ends it for me anyway

Oh he is gonna run he's already getting his team set up in Chicago(true). The republicans better come up with a viable canidate for Potus soon or I will do a write in. Any way it goes I don't see myself voting for Obama for a 2nd term.

He is planning a run but he won't do it. His poll numbers are way to low and if they remain that way he will not run again. If he does run again there is really no point to have forums like this and women will never win the White House. That is the reality. If its not Hillary it will be no one. I guess women will take 20 years to win the White House. Obama is going to **** things up for all Democrats and I personally will never work for another woman. Why will I do that when it seems to me all women are interested in doing is stabbing one another in backs. We don't deserve to break that ceiling if we don't stop all this foolishness.
He will not run. I haven't been wrong about anything else and I am not going to be wrong about this.
Planning to run doesn't mean he will run He has stated and he means that he has no intention of running unless his numbers improve I don't see that happening.
I will pass it along to Team Hillary and the rest of the pro hillary blogs and forums that we are wasting our times because their will be no Hillary in 2012. SHE WILL NOT RUN AGAINST HIM NOR WILL SHE ENDORSE ANYONE WHO DOES. SHE ALSO WILL NOT RUN IN 2016 BECAUSE SHE WILL BE TO OLD. SO REALLY THERE IS NO POINT IN EVEN HAVING THIS FORUM OR WASTING MY TIME BLOGGING FOR HILLARY. I GUESS I CAN GO BACK TO HAVING MY OLD LIFE. THERE WILL BE NO PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON

Barack suceeds then women lose. Its that simple because frankly I dont want another woman if not her then I don't care. Women need to stop being chicken ****s and start fighting back or they will find themselves with no rights.

Building 4112 · Moderator

It will be a crucial test, and one of party loyalty. It was painful, but make no mistake
the democratic party doesn't own my vote, and neither does the republican party.

I know the bitterness, I know the humilation, and I know what shrew politics is all about.
The showdown next time will not be about a slowdown, cause I don't have 20 damn years left. We are in battle to get to the white house, so let the war begin, and start arm twisting your sisters!

Be clear, when Hillary runs we will promise no comfort to our sisters who are against her.

-- Edited by Building 4112 on Sunday 14th of March 2010 12:01:42 AM

rachel · Platinum

Sorry you feel that way, but I will always be intrested in the things Hillary does for the world whether she is president or not. I beleive he will run again, and even if he doesn't no other democrat will win in 2012. Not enough people will be behind the dem party if Obama quits and Hillary is not gonna run.

Hillarysmygirl16 wrote:

rachel wrote:

Hillarysmygirl16 wrote:

I am voting for Hillary in 2012 election unless Obama decides to run for reelecection which I don't think is likely given his poll numbers.
I am disquested with the Democrats they have not heard the American people at all and after what they did to Hillary well that ends it for me anyway

Oh he is gonna run he's already getting his team set up in Chicago(true). The republicans better come up with a viable canidate for Potus soon or I will do a write in. Any way it goes I don't see myself voting for Obama for a 2nd term.

He is planning a run but he won't do it. His poll numbers are way to low and if they remain that way he will not run again. If he does run again there is really no point to have forums like this and women will never win the White House. That is the reality. If its not Hillary it will be no one. I guess women will take 20 years to win the White House. Obama is going to **** things up for all Democrats and I personally will never work for another woman. Why will I do that when it seems to me all women are interested in doing is stabbing one another in backs. We don't deserve to break that ceiling if we don't stop all this foolishness.
He will not run. I haven't been wrong about anything else and I am not going to be wrong about this.
Planning to run doesn't mean he will run He has stated and he means that he has no intention of running unless his numbers improve I don't see that happening.
I will pass it along to Team Hillary and the rest of the pro hillary blogs and forums that we are wasting our times because their will be no Hillary in 2012. SHE WILL NOT RUN AGAINST HIM NOR WILL SHE ENDORSE ANYONE WHO DOES. SHE ALSO WILL NOT RUN IN 2016 BECAUSE SHE WILL BE TO OLD. SO REALLY THERE IS NO POINT IN EVEN HAVING THIS FORUM OR WASTING MY TIME BLOGGING FOR HILLARY. I GUESS I CAN GO BACK TO HAVING MY OLD LIFE. THERE WILL BE NO PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON
Barack suceeds then women lose. Its that simple because frankly I dont want another woman if not her then I don't care. Women need to stop being chicken ****s and start fighting back or they will find themselves with no rights.

Sanders · Diamond

Rosanne Barr has posted very positively on Hillary Clinton lately. I greatly appreciate that.

Recently RA had asked if Rosanne would help with primary/caucus reform...and other initiatives.. and Rosanne has said yes. RA has posted it in TeamHillaryClintonForum.