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Sanders · Diamond

"Don't run Sarah: New poll says Americans don't want Palin for President" (NYDailyNews.com 1/19/10)

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

I take her numbers with a grain of salt because those negatives are not her fault. She is like Hillary a threat that the media wants to elimate. I may not be a Sarah supporter but I like her and once she gains experience I will vote for her as long as she isn't running against Hillary.

VotedHillary · Platinum

It's a CBS poll....that is all that needs to be said about its validity.

But, frankly, I don't really think she has a chance because Americans have a sour taste in their mouthes right now regarding inexperienced candidates.

If she did decide to run though, I would call out every sexist media comment thrown her way.

freespirit · Moderator

VotedHillary wrote:

It's a CBS poll....that is all that needs to be said about its validity.

But, frankly, I don't really think she has a chance because Americans have a sour taste in their mouthes right now regarding inexperienced candidates.

If she did decide to run though, I would call out every sexist media comment thrown her way.

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Destiny · Platinum

I don't believe experience has anything to do with Sarah Palin's chances to be president.

After all she was more experienced than obama, biden, mccain and Hillary. They all are/ were senators. Palin was a mayor and governor which is like running a government business. Budgets, hiring, firing, decisions for the welfare of the people of Alaska, etc.

The reason she will never become president is the fact that the media brainwashed people into hating her, not just disagree with her, but HATE her!!!!!

The media did their best to destroy Hiillary, but on June 7, 2008 when Hillary asked her supporters to back obama, the media backed off. If she would have gone all the way, god only knows what horrible things the media would have done to her.

Is it because these two women are strong? I think it had more to do with getting obama (an unknown, inexperienced, anti-american, lying fraud) elected. I think that Hillary and Sarah needed to be torn down, so that they were out of the way for "the one". In other words, they were a threat. I think it was less personal and more business. The dirty business of politics.

Their plan is to get obama elected in 2012, they would love nothing more than for Sarah to run, because they know she will continue to be buried by the media and hated by the people. I wish everyone would stop promoting her from running for president.

As I said before, if the republicans have her as a front runner, there is no doubt in my mind that they are behind getting obama another 4 years. And, if anyone thinks that their pet dog could get elected over obama right now, is not thinking about their agenda to keep this dancing clown in the white house for many years to come. The bankers owe him a lot and they will make good on their promise when the time comes!

Clearly, we need someone new, someone with super powers, maybe someone with a truck to make sure obama is thrown out of the white house!

freespirit · Moderator

I agree that Sarah is more experienced that BO was at the time he began campaigning for POTUS. He had been in the U S Senate for a very brief time before he went from Senator to full time candidate. His experience prior to that, of course, was on the state level.

I don't think Sarah's experience can compare to Hillary's, who was actively involved with a number of political type activities prior to becoming first lady of AR, during which time she was actively involved, particularly in re-vamping the state's educational system. She was also very active, as we know, when Bill was POTUS - eight years. Then, of course, she served in the U.S. Senate. I think Hillary's education and her life experience, along with her political life make her the more experienced than BO or Sarah.

MSM and others were savagely unfair to Sarah. Much of this was due to plain old prejudice - against women, against people from rural America, against anyone not educated at a snobby, hotsy-totsy-university, against anyone who is plain spoken, and in their view unsophisticated. She in no way deserved the sexist and misogynistic treatment she received, and should she decide to run, while I will likely not support her, I will, of course, speak out against sexism leveled at her.

Maybe I haven't followed Sarah's speeches and writing closely enough since the 2008 election, but I just don't have much of a sense of who she is. Before I would vote for her, I would have to understand and, at least, partially agree with her stand on a number of issues. I would also have to be confident that she was ready to serve as the leader of this country. Heaven knows we don't need another POTUS who requires on the job training.

VotedHillary · Platinum

Destiny wrote:

I don't believe experience has anything to do with Sarah Palin's chances to be president.
After all she was more experienced than obama, biden, mccain and Hillary.

Nope, she doesn't have more experience than Hillary. I more than understand Palin supporters and their fed-up with her being trampled while Obama's experience is being touted....but more experience in the politcal arena than Hillary?

sorry, but no. Hillary as a US Senator played it so smart...she was a rock star elected in 2000, but laid low her first few years and did her homework.

Sorry, but to me, Palin doesn't seem interested in doing the work. She is a Fox correspondent now...using her journalism degree...and more power to her for that.

Palin wants to keep up her "profile". Nothing wrong with that, but she hasn't done her homework.

She is not in the same league as Hillary...and the polls reflect that.

Jen the Michigander · SuperModerator

The more I get to know Palin, the more I am convinced that she is a show pony, not a workhorse like Hillary.

ssmith · Platinum

As for cBS.... enough said, I find it interesting they release their bogus poll on the day Sarah releases her PAC number, over 2 million raised w/o any requests, no direct mailings, nothing,
there is a reason there is a BS in cBS.

yea, I finally understand how the game is played.... MSM gets their orders and will coordinate to bring someone down as they are ordered to.

I disagree, I have seen Sarah's record as a mayor, oil and gas commisioner as governor, she is indeed a work horse. I would be the first to admit if I didnt think so.
(I also agree the Marxist is LESS, much LESS experienced than Sarah, but Hillary is more experienced than Sarah)

As for the people hating her, well, wait until unemployment gets over 11%, and it will, then people will pissed not only at the marxist fraud but the MSM that props him up.

If Sarah runs, I would 100% back her.

-- Edited by ssmith on Sunday 31st of January 2010 10:52:22 AM

Bloomer · Platinum

WEll.......if she does decide to run they will beat the hell out of her all the way through the process and that in itself leaves a sick pit in the bottom of my stomach.

It will have nothing to do with her experience really........only that she is female!

Get ready........for one big friggin fight ladies and gentlemen. History will repeat itself and that you can take to the bank.

Kbentleyis · Diamond

Bloomer has a good point. It doesn't matter about experience that Sarah has--it's just that she is a female. The pundits and media were a contributing factor why we don't have Hillary as president today. And, of course the DNC had planned to demolish her as well.

The campaign coffers are for those who are running as concervatives. She is taking the money she receives from speaking and putting that into a special fund. Those funds, and her special appearences for candidates will replenish themselves. She announced this several times.

I don't think the dems or repubs want a women in the White House who won't be afraid to call out the corruption and rid those who are active in promoting it. The BeltWay is not ready to be exposed. Sarah would do it, no matter what party a poltician belongs to. She did it in her state, she wouldn't hesitate to do it to them.

That's what they're afraid of.

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

Hillary has way more experience then Sarah rather she was paid for her work or not. Hillary took a state that was 49 in education and revamped their education system and NOW that state is number 8. CA is now where Ark was before Hillary worked on education reform.
I don't like to compare them but the truth is Sarah has only a tiny bit more experience then the fraud and Bush Jr and that is why I personally can't support her.
Hillary's experience as First Lady is probley better experience then VP and Gov. As she seen up front and personal all the things not to do.
Sarah has to figure out what she wants to do and set a course.
As for media hate it has nothing to do with Obama because when it started on Hillary Barack was just a private citizen as was Sarah.
Sarah has suffered at the hands of the media but when she is perpwalked in front of the entire world as Hillary was in 95 then perhaps we can compare the two but while Sarah has only been dealing with the media's abuse for less then two years Hillary has had to put up with this crap for 18 years now.
I will protect Sarah the best I can but cry me a river when it comes to the media abusing her. She cannot compare herself to Hillary in that area or most other areas.
The truth is NEITHER of these two women want to be compared to the other or pitted against each other and that is something both of these women deserve credit for.
2 years of being Gov is not a lot of experience and as for Mayor that doesn't qualify you even if you are the mayor of NYC its like apples and organges. It drives me crazy when people say being a mayor qualifies you for being President. I said that about Gullini and he was the mayor of NYC

Sanders · Diamond

HMG, I am pretty much in the same place as you on all aspects you summed up.

I do not compare her to Hillary. If I do, she comes short by eons. One does not have to be a Hillary Clinton to run for POTUS. [But LOL it would help!]

Sarah Palin is presently not ready for POTUS office in 2012.
* On experience, she is severely short and that is something she cannot make up between now and January 2011. Also, she has not shown the growth needed over the past one year to convince me that she will be ready in another year. I would prefer if she gained experience possibly as a senator first before running for POTUS. I wish she had not left the Governor job.
* I continue to assess her appearances and her statements not just for any political punch but for that true connection and ability to lead; so far she is coming short.

I can and will support Sarah against sexist attacks by the media.

Destiny · Platinum

I'm a Hillary supporter only.

What I meant by Sarah being more experienced than senators is the fact that she ran a government of a very large state, in fact most countries are smaller (much smaller) than the state of Alaska. The media never gave her credit for that job.

As far as Hillary having the most experience in every aspect is without question.

As said above, Sarah Palin will not be able to withstand the anger toward her that the media created.