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"Top House Dem warns: If Brown wins, reconciliation is on the table" (HotAir 1/15/10)
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Top House Dem warns: If Brown wins, reconciliation is on the table

posted at 7:29 pm on January 15, 2010 by Allahpundit
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You don’t have the balls, champ.

That procedure requires 51 votes rather than the 60 needed to prevent Republicans from blocking votes on President Barack Obama’s top legislative priorities. That supermajority is at risk as the Massachusetts race has tightened.

“Even before Massachusetts and that race was on the radar screen, we prepared for the process of using reconciliation,” Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said…

Should Democrats take that route, the legislation would have to be scaled back because of Senate rules.

Lefty poll analyst Nate Silver tackled this question in mid-December, when the idea of the GOP blowing up Massachusetts was just a glint in Scott Brown’s eye. Worth quoting:

The Bush tax cuts were popular; health care is not. Moreover, the filibuster actually polls well, so use of the procedure itself would be unpopular. If you intersect an unpopular policy with an unpopular process, I don’t know what you’re going to get, but the downside risk would seem to be fairly profound — as in, I’d take even money at that point that the Democrats would lose the House.

Also, tax cuts are a relatively straightforward application of the reconciliation process — health care is not, and the resulting procedural debate would last weeks if not months, giving the public plenty of time to stew over it.

He’s not even sure the Dems would have 51 votes guaranteed given that Blue Dogs like Nelson and Lincoln would certainly use the new threshold as their opportunity to bail on the plan. But never mind that: Considering the panic among vulnerable Democrats about the process dragging on much longer, Silver’s second stated reason is more compelling than his first. Factor in the new optics — i.e., Democrats short-circuiting normal Senate procedures to obstruct a guy who’d just been elected for the specific purpose of blocking the bill — and it’s a recipe for disaster. Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the caucus fracture over it. Barney Frank and Ed Schultz are exaggerating slightly for electoral effect in saying that a Brown win means the end of ObamaCare — but only slightly. As Lowry explains, it probably does mean the end, unless Nelson et al. have much sturdier spines than we’ve given them credit for.

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Senate Can Pass Health With 51 Votes, Van Hollen Says (Update1)


By Jonathan D. Salant

Jan. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Even if Democrats lose the special election to pick a new Massachusetts senator Tuesday, Congress may still pass health-care overhaul through a process called reconciliation, a top House Democrat said.

That procedure requires 51 votes rather than the 60 needed to prevent Republicans from blocking votes on President Barack Obama’s top legislative priorities. That supermajority is at risk as the Massachusetts race has tightened.

“Even before Massachusetts and that race was on the radar screen, we prepared for the process of using reconciliation,” Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said.

“Getting health-care reform passed is important,” Van Hollen said in an interview on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital with Al Hunt,” airing this weekend. “Reconciliation is an option.”

Should Democrats take that route, the legislation would have to be scaled back because of Senate rules.

He also said he expects Democratic Senate candidate Martha Coakley to win in Massachusetts.

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-- Edited by Sanders on Friday 15th of January 2010 07:45:53 PM

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these people are such fking idiots.

I hope they really are stupid enough to do this, I want that UnDemocratic Marxist party destroyed. These people aren't even Americans!!!

and if they try this nonsense, the UnDemocratic Party is DONE! stick a fork in it! They are already in HUGEEEEEEEEE trouble, this totalarian nonsense is just sticking a fork in it!

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I'm starting to think the health care bill is just a smokescreen that's up to cover up Obama and his buddies, Republican and "Democrat," looting the treasury.  When it falls by the wayside, they won't care.  It's like George Bush Jr. not caring about all those dead Iraqis, or "winning" the "war," as long as they got the oil.

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Now that Brown won I am dying to see what happens to this bill

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