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Jen the Michigander · SuperModerator

Obama's inner sanctum runs mostly on testosterone (Star Tribune 10/24/09)

Alex · Diamond

Jen the Michigander wrote:

The more I read about 0's boys' club, the more I think he and his inner circle are not just sexist, but utterly immature and lazy as well. How many normal men in their late 40s spend that much time hanging out with their male buddies? Sure, the menfolks have their football parties and occasional poker games, but for the most part they've left the frat boy lifestyle behind because they have jobs, wives, kids, and other responsibilities that they didn't have to worry about back when they were in college. I mean, shouldn't Obama and his staff be too damn busy to watch basketball and play golf as much as they do? That's the kind of stuff I would expect an ex-president to do, not the current one.
He's a big @zz baby who thinks girls and work are ooky.

freespirit · Moderator

There's a real disconnect here, imo. I mean, this guy, raised primarily by his mother and grandmother, and he's uncomfortable with women. Most guys raised primarily by females are pretty comfortable with other females. It almost seems that he's afraid of them, and we know he's threatened by them, especially those who are waaaay more competent than he, as Hillary was. But, he seems a little scared of MO, too, sometimes.

Well, I guess it doesn't really matter why he discriminates against women. The fact is he does. And in today's world, any executive, whether of a business or the government, who can't be inclusive of all - regardless of race or gender, shouldn't be an executive. Such an executive is too immature, too prejudiced, too ignorant to be fit for the office. The POTUS is supposed to be the leader of the country - not just the men of the country, or his supporters. This office is way too big for Obama.

SwanSpirit · gold

He was ABANDONED by his mother ..and he did not like his "typical white woman " grandmother .. enough to even go and defend her at the bus stop where she was frightened by a man. Think about that . No matter what color the man at the bus stop was ... bo blamed his grandmother for being frightened , instead of the "typical grandson "response of walking her to the bus stop and making sure she was ok .
He was raised in a muslim culture until he was 10 years old , ( whether or not he is makes no difference ; he was still raised in that culture ) so the way women are treated and how they are thought of are ingrained in him from his formative years .

freespirit · Moderator

Good points, Swanspirit. I guess, I just assumed he was exaggerating the story about his grandmother - using it for his own advantage, as he does most situations. But his apparent lack of concern when she was ill, certainly would seem to confirm your theory - that he was never close to her.

The Muslim early years probably did impact him. Although, he certainly defers to MO a lot, it seems. I think the man basically has little sense of self, doesn't know who he is, and cares about very few people or issues other than on a very superficial level. My guess is that all the people he keeps closest to him are those who feed his ego, ignore (or also embrace) his vain and materialistic values, and those who, like BO, see the serious issues of government as a game - to be won or lost for one's on self-aggrandizement. In other words, as Alex said - immature and lazy.

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

Most males raised by single mother are stronger feminists then some of the females they end up in. I think my son's girlfriend used to get confused because my son expected to help out around the house and expected to do his share of the "housework" Its because boys see how hard it is for a single mom and therefore are more protective. They also have to do more work because their mom's can't do everything for them.

Building 4112 · Moderator

HMG.........when I decided to work, and had babies, I stepped in and helped my husband learn how to care for them, and he himself was working full time too. At that time we didn't have Pampers, we used cloth diapers, and he needed to be a part of washing, etc.

I'll never forget one day, he was watching football, and his Dad came over, and looked at my husband who was on the floor folding dozens of clean diapers. His dad said, what are you doing? And of course, he said what does it look like I am doing. His father had never ever
changed a daiper, never ever fixed a bottle. He didn't think it was his place to be doing that.
I told my pop in law, you know, when I come home, and see that the babies are asleep on his chest, I know they were fed, and are clean, and not waiting for me to come home to
care for them.

I think this has changed, my son who has children, not only helped in this area, he also
cooks for his family, and he vacumns, and this all comes about, by teaching sons, fathers, etc
to be a part of doing what needs to be done, especially when women work outside the home
too.

I do know the other side, as my daughter is a single mom! And I think she is very strong,
and a very good mother.

Jen the Michigander · SuperModerator

I think your psychological assessment of 0 is very accurate, Swan Spirit. I often wonder what kind of relationship 0 has with his daughters?

Alice Paul · Platinum

SwanSpirit wrote:

He was ABANDONED by his mother ..and he did not like his "typical white woman " grandmother .. enough to even go and defend her at the bus stop where she was frightened by a man. Think about that . No matter what color the man at the bus stop was ... bo blamed his grandmother for being frightened , instead of the "typical grandson "response of walking her to the bus stop and making sure she was ok .
He was raised in a muslim culture until he was 10 years old , ( whether or not he is makes no difference ; he was still raised in that culture ) so the way women are treated and how they are thought of are ingrained in him from his formative years .

Yes, exactly. His behavior now and his complete lack of understanding about women's issues are reflective of everything you just posted. It's the womans' fault somehow...even the fact that he chose to run with no record as young as he was against an accomplished woman when he could have waited..ought to have waited as even Michelle said "He hasn't done anything yet."

He is oblivious. Women's issues are unimportant trivialities to him.

Lara · gold

There are a couple of threads that deal with BO and sexism, so I just chose this one to post this article.

"Florida Democrat Calls Fed Adviser "K Street Whore" 10/27/09

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Fla-Democrat-calls-Fed-apf-3884676894.html?x=0&.v=2

Here's a quote:

The Florida Democrat who said Republicans want sick people to "die quickly" is again facing criticism for his rhetoric -- this time for calling a senior Federal Reserve adviser a "K Street whore" in a radio interview.

Rep. Alan Grayson hurled the insult at Linda Robertson last month on the Alex Jones Show, a syndicated talk radio program, while discussing the Fed's resistance to stronger congressional oversight. Robertson is a former Enron lobbyist and Clinton administration adviser who was hired by Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke this summer to help with congressional relations.

Washington's K Street is where many lobbyists, trade associations and law firms have their offices.

Grayson took exception to Robertson's role, saying she has criticized congressional efforts to increase oversight.

"Here I am the only member of Congress who actually worked as an economist, and this lobbyist, this K Street whore, is trying to teach me about economics," he said.

Grayson never identified Robertson by name, saying he couldn't remember her name, but he made clear whom he was referring to from her background and job.

His spokesman, Todd Jurkowski, defended the insult Tuesday.

"She had the audacity to attack a congressman who used to be an economist," he said. "She's a career lobbyist who used to work for Enron and advocates for whatever she gets paid to promote."

I don't know what Robertson said or how she said it nor do I like the fact that she is a lobbyist who worked for Enron, but the fact that this Democratic nutjob (Grayson) is trying to shut her down by insulting her in very sexist terms says a lot to me about the state of the Democratic Party at this point in time. For example, if you are at a business meeting and are having a civil, but spirited, discussion about an issue you don't expect that a man in the room is going to turn around and call you a whore because you don't agree with him. That to me would be out of line and if I was in that room I would have asked the person who used that term to leave the meeting. Where do these jerk politicians think they can speak to women this way? BO doesn't know how to work with women and apparently Grayson is cut from the same cloth.

Jen the Michigander · SuperModerator

On the bright side of life, there are articles and blog posts about this everywhere. I didn't post them all here at Hillarysworld because there were just too many of them. And this story keeps growing legs.