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TOPIC: (8.17.09) Man carrying assault weapon attends Obama protest in Arizona


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(8.17.09) Man carrying assault weapon attends Obama protest in Arizona
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Funny how they don't mention that he's a black guy against Obama's health reform.


Hillary supporters knew this would happen.


Man carrying assault weapon attends Obama protest

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President Obama supporters and protestors gather outside the Phoenix ConventionAP – President Obama supporters and protestors gather outside the Phoenix Convention Center in Phoenix, Monday, …

PHOENIX – About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday — the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president.

Gun-rights advocates say they're exercising their constitutional right to bear arms and protest, while those who argue for more gun control say it could be a disaster waiting to happen.

Phoenix police said the gun-toters at Monday's event, including the man carrying an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle slung over his shoulder, didn't need permits. No crimes were committed, and no one was arrested.

The man with the rifle declined to be identified but told The Arizona Republic that he was carrying the assault weapon because he could. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms," he said.

Phoenix police Detective J. Oliver, who monitored the man at the downtown protest, said police also wanted to make sure no one decided to harm him.

"Just by his presence and people seeing the rifle and people knowing the president was in town, it sparked a lot of emotions," Oliver said. "We were keeping peace on both ends."

Last week, during Obama's health care town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., a man carrying a sign reading "It is time to water the tree of liberty" stood outside with a pistol strapped to his leg.

"It's a political statement," he told The Boston Globe. "If you don't use your rights, then you lose your rights."

Police asked the man to move away from school property, but he was not arrested.

Fred Solop, a Northern Arizona University political scientist, said the incidents in New Hampshire and Arizona could signal the beginning of a disturbing trend.

"When you start to bring guns to political rallies, it does layer on another level of concern and significance," Solop said. "It actually becomes quite scary for many people. It creates a chilling effect in the ability of our society to carry on honest communication."

He said he's never heard of someone bringing an assault weapon near a presidential event. "The larger the gun, the more menacing the situation," he said.

Phoenix was Obama's last stop on a four-day tour of western states, including Montana and Colorado.

Authorities in Montana said they received no reports of anyone carrying firearms during Obama's health care town hall near Bozeman on Friday. About 1,000 people both for and against Obama converged at a protest area near the Gallatin Field Airport hangar where the event took place. One person accused of disorderly conduct was detained and released, according to the Gallatin Airport Authority.

Heather Benjamin of Denver's Mesa County sheriff's department, the lead agency during Obama's visit there, said no one was arrested.

Arizona is an "open-carry" state, which means anyone legally allowed to have a firearm can carry it in public as long as it's visible. Only someone carrying a concealed weapon is required to have a permit.

Paul Helmke, president of the Washington, D.C.-based Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said people should not be allowed to bring guns to events where Obama is.

"To me, this is craziness," he said. "When you bring a loaded gun, particularly a loaded assault rifle, to any political event, but particularly to one where the president is appearing, you're just making the situation dangerous for everyone."

He said people who bring guns to presidential events are distracting the Secret Service and law enforcement from protecting the president. "The more guns we see at more events like this, there's more potential for something tragic happening," he said.

Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said armed demonstrators in open-carry states such as Arizona and New Hampshire have little impact on security plans for the president.

"In both cases, the subject was not entering our site or otherwise attempting to," Donovan said. "They were in a designated public viewing area. The main thing to know is that they would not have been allowed inside with a weapon."

Representatives of the National Rifle Association did not return calls for comment.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090817/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_protesters_guns



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Lets use common sense people if someone wants to kill the President they would not be visiably showing their weapons.  He is more then likely someone who is afraid Obama would take away their weapons.



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Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said armed demonstrators in open-carry states such as Arizona and New Hampshire have little impact on security plans for the president.
"In both cases, the subject was not entering our site or otherwise attempting to," Donovan said. "They were in a designated public viewing area. The main thing to know is that they would not have been allowed inside with a weapon."

So the Secret Service doesn't have a problem with it and it is not against the law... so why is this making the news as if an attack was made on the President?



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Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said armed demonstrators in open-carry states such as Arizona and New Hampshire have little impact on security plans for the president.
"In both cases, the subject was not entering our site or otherwise attempting to," Donovan said. "They were in a designated public viewing area. The main thing to know is that they would not have been allowed inside with a weapon."


So the Secret Service doesn't have a problem with it and it is not against the law... so why is this making the news as if an attack was made on the President?



To prove to America how much danger the black president in in.  He is getting a lot of protection and it is difficult to kill any president so the media shows this to take away from his bad policies. 
 



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Hillarysmygirl16 wrote:

 

thebword wrote:

Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said armed demonstrators in open-carry states such as Arizona and New Hampshire have little impact on security plans for the president.
"In both cases, the subject was not entering our site or otherwise attempting to," Donovan said. "They were in a designated public viewing area. The main thing to know is that they would not have been allowed inside with a weapon."


So the Secret Service doesn't have a problem with it and it is not against the law... so why is this making the news as if an attack was made on the President?



To prove to America how much danger the black president in in.  He is getting a lot of protection and it is difficult to kill any president so the media shows this to take away from his bad policies.

 




ITA!

And I too find the fact that the man's race was not mentioned in any article I've seen so far quite interesting. As well as Obama supporters as well. Had the man been white, the tone and focus of the articles would have been drastically varied and everyone knows it.

Maybe it's just me but I personally no longer believe anything involving or surrounding Obama, in that it all seems like aa game, with plants and the like to let them create stories instead of the msm reporting them.



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KWayne wrote:

Hillarysmygirl16 wrote:

 

thebword wrote:

Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said armed demonstrators in open-carry states such as Arizona and New Hampshire have little impact on security plans for the president.
"In both cases, the subject was not entering our site or otherwise attempting to," Donovan said. "They were in a designated public viewing area. The main thing to know is that they would not have been allowed inside with a weapon."


So the Secret Service doesn't have a problem with it and it is not against the law... so why is this making the news as if an attack was made on the President?



To prove to America how much danger the black president in in.  He is getting a lot of protection and it is difficult to kill any president so the media shows this to take away from his bad policies.

 




ITA!

And I too find the fact that the man's race was not mentioned in any article I've seen so far quite interesting. As well as Obama supporters as well. Had the man been white, the tone and focus of the articles would have been drastically varied and everyone knows it.

Maybe it's just me but I personally no longer believe anything involving or surrounding Obama, in that it all seems like aa game, with plants and the like to let them create stories instead of the msm reporting them.



The media does that all the time. Lets take poverty for instance the media prefers to show only brown faces when it discusses poverty when the fact is Poverty isn't racist it strikes all races.  It doesn't help the poor white people who are assumed shouldn't be in poverty even though they have been in poverty for generations also. This doesn't help anyone yet the media continues to do so.
Lets take racist Republicans/Conservative even though there is a lot of black people who are Conservative/Republican the media chooses to call anyone who disagree with liberals racist by forgetting the fact that there are black conservatives/ Republicans. This is how the media stereotypes people.

 



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But that guy with the gun is still a dumba$$. Somebody needs to slap the stupid out of his brain.

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But what he did was legal.  I don't care what the media says the Secret service said it wasn't a problem and if it was legal what is the problem. 

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