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mslas4hillary · Moderator

From Woman to Professional, a Step Forward (the new agenda) 7/24/2009

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

mslas4hillary wrote:

What I would like is for everyone to set aside their party hats for this one. Because it is very important to understand the impact of CEO Harry Alford’s statement distinguishing Rice as not only a Black Republican Conservative Woman, but also a Professional. Someone equal to himself. This simple label change is the beginning of a transition from identifying women in politics by their gender, which separates us from the men. It is a huge step forward for ALL women. Republican, Democrats, Conservatives, Liberals, etc….Not only was he equalizing Rice through this statement he was equalizing all women.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSun0TPPeIM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthenewagenda%2Enet%2F2009%2F07%2F24%2Ffrom%2Dwoman%2Dto%2Dprofessional%2Da%2Dstep%2Dforward%2F&feature=player_embedded We talk a lot about the labels that we use to refer to ourselves or the harmful labels that others use to refer to us as groups or individuals. And I find that in order to obtain real equality,we can need to maintain our femininity, our ethnicity, and racial identities. But we need to be seen as equals and referred to as such. When males begin to refer to women in these careers or positions of power under an ambiguous term/label it is a real step in the right direction.
So I want to thank CEO Harry Alford for not only making the statement, but unknowingly and involuntary affirming that shows women are equal.

Glad that he reffered to her as a professional. People sometimes view women as these strange foreign objects

Thanks for posting this. I like the New Adgenda. Amy is working her butt off over there.

freespirit · Moderator

I agree, mslas. They often have really good articles, and I think their willingness to support equal rights for women of all political affiliations - not just the Dems - is a good thing. We don't have to agree with someone to want them to be treated fairly.

Sanders · Diamond

How to post links and how to embed videos.

Always trim the links of trailing stuff... those are intended for active use i.e., if each person browses and discovers the article, they want the whole thing. Otherwise, you are going to the article directly. So, use Direct link. See below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSun0TPPeIM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthenewagenda%2Enet%2F2009%2F07%2F24%2Ffrom%2Dwoman%2Dto%2Dprofessional%2Da%2Dstep%2Dforward%2F&feature=player_embedded

only needs to be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSun0TPPeIM

The rest can be chopped off. You can also give a separate link to the source article so that the source article also gets read.

I will try to link the Youtube.. The code is as follows - remove the blank spaces after the [ = and ]
[ video = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSun0TPPeIM ]

-- Edited by Sanders on Thursday 30th of July 2009 05:44:40 AM

Sanders · Diamond

As to progress of woman to professional...

Some may read the following as a light/flippant remark, but I make a strong statement here to say something important about the American Society.

I believe we will BEGIN to make progress on equality when

- the media anchors do not think that a man taking the trash out of the kitchen is a favor to the woman in the house.

- the bad economy does not result in older male workers replacing older female workers in the local Marshall's store. (yes, an observation across all counters)

- a parenting holiday (for either man or woman) is viewed no different from a day of vacation/leave/working from home as the case may be... or even as a period of extended unemployment.

- when women taking a home-front role and man taking an external role OR Vice versa is viewed from the angle of skills rather than gender

- a kid calls her dad "mom" and her mom "dad" and it is not corrected in the house (yes, it is so in ours; we laugh every now and then)

- when the man or woman does not have to ask is it his/her day to pitch in in the kitchen / the laundry / cleaning the bathroom or the garage

EQUALITY BEGINS AT HOME.

RESPECT is the basic ingredient that makes the Equality rise or fall, just like yeast to dough.

Optixmom · Super Moderator

I do find it absolutely amazing that certain individuals that are within the Democratic
Party wear such blinders regarding a persons gender or race. It is like they believe
that every African American should be part of their party, supporting every thread of
policy that they whip out. She doesn't believe in dissent when it is in regard to
gender or race.

Boxer did herself an incredible disservice. She could have debated with him regarding
facts and data, but instead thought she could get him to change his stance by using a
generalized statement by the NAACP.

It not only shows how small minded she can be regarding diverse opinions, it also
shows me she doesn't know what the hell is in the Cap & Trade Bill to begin with!

-- Edited by Optixmom on Thursday 30th of July 2009 06:14:07 AM

Sanders · Diamond

The media brings black people to counter black people. I see that all the time. Is that racism?

Does O'reilly bring multiple guests of similar background?

I actually LIKE it that she brought DATA from another group of representatives of LIKE kind. In STATISTICS, it is called REMOVING A BIAS ELEMENT; it is intended to bring GREATER PARITY in COMPARISON.

I believe Senator Boxer had not even considered that this might get objected to; otherwise, she would have had her defensive argument ready. The fact that she did not, actually tells me that she did not come at it from butt race group against each other viewpoint.

This is my revised opinion on the video now that I have seen it three times.

Kbentleyis · Diamond

I never knew or heard of Harry Alford until the Boxer incident. But, the more I hear and see the more I really like this guy.

We need more Harrys.

Sanders · Diamond

I like Harry Alford and the viewpoint he brought regarding the Cap & Trade policy -- as we see in the initial part of the Oreilly segment. Oreilly does a good job of framing the interview as conservative vs. liberal and making the audience really ask themselves to assess BOTH sides - Boxer and Alford - in the "non" exchange that follows, and correctly summarizes it as Boxer trying to win a point on the policy debate.

Where Sen.Boxer failed is to listen. She interrupted him when his emotion was high. In the interview with O'reilly you can see that it still bothers him.. that is the effect of not listening... and you see that Alford opens old examples.. and generalizes what she does into "that's her" and all the other cases - Anita Hill, Kim Blackwell, Condi Rice.. all of them comes up. This is indeed an interesting dynamic to watch for a lesson in Diversity. Intent vs. Impact.

I don't like it when he says she loves 'Poor black folks' - and says that with a derisive voice. Rest of his interview I am ok with. He was not at all pretentious; his reaction to Sen.Boxer was genuine, and he did respect her as she was reading and held back his response until she finished her sentence... as also during parts of O'reilly interview when he was referring to her... and that I like, a LOT.

typo fixed (hold-> held - grammar)

-- Edited by Sanders on Monday 3rd of August 2009 08:32:25 PM