Hillarysworld

Jen the Michigander · SuperModerator

Would we be better off under a President Hillary Clinton? (WaPo 11/07/10)

freespirit · Moderator

What a great analysis/comparison - whatever it is, it's spot on. The policies and proposals Hillary put forth during the 08 Sh** Storm were always comprehensive, with measures to address the primary issue as well as each important component. She knew that superficial efforts, and speeches weren't going to get the job done. She understood how important it was to do the work, to deal with the hard problems, and to enlist the help of smart, capable people. Most importantly - Hillary actually cares about this country and wants to serve. She's not just on some ego trip like Barack.

reddirtgirl · Platinum

Oh what could have/should have been...if the DNC/RBC hadn't fu**ed over Hillary and the American people. I have NO doubt we would be better off today.

Sanders · Diamond

Dana Milbank has written a very good reflective article here.

Hillary knew that the housing market problem demanded urgent problem-solving. The 90-days moratorium on foreclosure that Hillary was the first to propose was absolutely needed - both to help the Americans and to help give a pause in which to get some things done.

Jim Cramer is not an eassy person to carry a conversation with - Hillary absolutely held his interest and totally impressed him.

Honestly, I think she would have tackled this very early on, put in curbs on derivative trading - as you can see, she was really onto the scams and the systemic impact of foreclosures on neighbors and neighborhood value.

Hillary would have been able to tackle both the housing market issue and the health care waste reduction [which is what was the focus of her work] through the highly throughout systemic health care reform policy she put out.

Seemingly her policies were the same as candidate Obama's. The goals were the same, but their approaches were very different; Hillary had laid out detailed and markedly different approaches.

The one place she had clear thumb on the issue was repealing the Pres.W. Bush tax cut for those with income of $250k and above - she spoke of that in the video above. She was going to monetize her Universal Health Care approach with the added income. It was a clear plan.

Yes, Candidate Hillary Clinton's approach to health care was a tad more expensive than of Candidate Obama, but Hillary's approach was assessed by a Harvard expert (published in NY Times) as the better approach that would give more benefits to more people and make more lasting changes structurally to the way health care would be delivered. The approach was fundamentally different. And, she had very in-depth understanding of the issues in health care; it would not have taken a dragged out year with woeful "communication void from WH" when the Congress twiddled thumb on the how question.

Yes, Dana Milbank. The answer is very simple.
The answer is simple: Do what Hillary would have done.

typos corrected

-- Edited by Sanders on Sunday 7th of November 2010 06:41:03 PM

Sanders · Diamond

I just read this article being discussed in The Moderate Voice by Joe Gandelman.

I thought you'd want to read one of the comments on his post.

gcotharn

12:41 pm November 7, 2010

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You mention the "bottom line". The bottom line is that this planted article in WaPo amounts to Hillary's announcement that she will challenge Barack for the 2012 Dem Nomination.

That's fine with me. By Jan of 2008, I understood that Barack would be a disaster as POTUS. I understood it so strongly that I caucused for Hillary in the Texas Dem Primary: http://theendzone.blogspot.com/2008/03/i-caucus-for-hillary.html . It might have been the best vote I ever cast.

I remember Jan – April of 2008. Only political junkies had taken a true look at Barack's lack of successful ventures in his life, at Barack's "blank slate" strategy of obscuring his true self, at Barack's strong left side roots and voting pattern. If I mentioned any of this out loud, however gently and innocuously, I was a heretic, a blasphemer, a hater. If I said "Dem voters ought look again at what they are doing: Hillary has far more life accomplishment and is far more prepared to be POTUS", then I was looked at as if I were from another planet. I can think of three long time acquaintances who looked at me in exactly that fashion … in wonder that I could say such a thing. Two of them laughed in my face. Dem voters were infatuated — were walking endorphin clouds.

In 2012, Hillary will win the nomination. In summer of 2012, pundits will say "I always said Hillary was going to win." Except, they didn't say it. I'm saying it. To me, its obvious.

Hats off to gcothran!

This post is worth reading: "I caucus for Hillary" (The End Zone). It brought back so many memories. [As does the Book "Big Girls Dont Cry" that I am reading now]

-- Edited by Sanders on Sunday 7th of November 2010 01:48:58 PM

Sanders · Diamond

I found this video clip from February 2008. Enjoy!

Sanders · Diamond

Dana Milbank interviewed on this on CNN.

Ever wonder if Hillary were in the White House? (amfix.blogs.cnn.com)

See the video there. Starts at 0:50 seconds mark.

Amy Dugan · Platinum

i emailed this to Dana

Dana

I could not agree more with your comments in your article about a Hillary Clinton presidency.

As somebody losing her job, I was/am a livid democrat after reading Jonathon Alter's Newsweek interview with Bill Clinton in October.

"Starting late in 09, Bill Clinton began lobbying privately for an energy-efficiency loan guarantee program. He prepared a detailed memo for the White House laying out a plan that would use $9 billion from Treasury to leverage $67 billion in financing to retrofit offices and residential buildings. This would create hundreds of thousands of new green jobs that cannot be exported. Clinton waited for much of this year for a perfunctory meeting with Obama in July 2010, however that was actually more of a photo op with business leaders".

Too bad the Dem party establishment selected Obama over experience. We could have had the Clintons in the WH. The economy stupid as a focus and a rapid response to the oil spill is what we could have had in addition to all of the great points you listed!!!!

Amy Dugan, PhD