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Jen the Michigander


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http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=146017

The article starts with a recap of Bill Clinton's Tea Party remarks. I'll skip that and get right down to the fun stuff...

Bill and Hillary Clinton (especially Bill) harbor no fondness for Obama. Bill's disdain for him played out publicly during the presidential campaign in 2008 and even since then. I submit that Clinton's remarks may have been intended as primary reasons for Hillary to oppose Obama for the presidency, should she decide to run in 2012.

Blaming Obama for what Clinton referenced as "not just a carefully orchestrated plot by people of extreme right-wing views, but one that fell into fertile soil because there were so many people for whom the world no longer made sense," can be used as a potent argument – saying Obama's political ineptness and incompetence are the key factors for the people losing hope.

Clinton is right when he says the world no longer makes sense to a lot of people. He is also right when he says people are angry. But, what he stopped just short of saying is that it is Obama's fault and that Hillary is the one to resolve said issues.

He's right, in part, when he said, "[The people] wanted a simple, clear explanation [for] what was an inherently complex, mixed picture, full of challenges that required not only changes in public policy, but personal conduct and imagination about the world we were living in." But here again, he stopped just short of accusing Obama of being the primary contributing factor, and, even worse, of not being able to provide reasonable solutions. Ergo, if I am correctly following his unspoken but intended meaning, Hillary is the one to clean up Obama's mess.

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There is no question that Obama has been a miserable failure from any reasonable perspective – just as there is no question that there is a growing cacophony of disappointment from disillusioned independents and moderate Democrats. It would be very easy for Hillary to position herself as a moderate – pointing out the failures of Obama's administration and at the same time blaming him for their fictional pandemic of "extreme right-wing" threats across the nation.

She would be able to blame him for creating a zeitgeist of disillusionment that viewed the "biggest threat to our liberty and the cause of our economic problems [as] the federal government itself." That would not be a hard sell. It would also allow them to attack the tea parties with a veneer of impunity. After all, Hillary wouldn't be responsible for the socialist agenda Obama has pushed; she hasn't voted on any piece of legislation; and Bill could always point to the success of his administration – which, such as it was, was due in large part to his taking credit for Republican initiatives.

But WND, as we all know, is an extreme right-wing site. Of course, they don't want Hillary to be our next President, and so the article turns this-a-way:

Even more insidious, if elected, she would be able to retain most of Obama's agenda because, to a marginally lesser extent, she and Obama represent the same thing. The difference would be that she would be afforded political cover, because she would neither be pushing his agenda nor implementing it. She would simply be working with the programs she inherited.

And if, as we believe, a substantial turnover occurs in the Congress, she would not be encumbered to the same extent with anti-incumbent sentiment. Obviously I'm only surmising here, but it is worth noting that if I'm thinking about it, someone in camp Clinton is certainly thinking about it. It is also worth noting that few are better at political back-stabbings than the Clintons.

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The first part of the article was great, and correct about the fact that Hillary would be in an excellent position to challenge BO. Of course, as you noted, Jen, there had to be a way for the right wingers to take a jab at the Clintons.

The reference to "back-stabbing Clintons" is typical right wing rhetoric. Both Bill and Hillary are known for reaching out to Republicans, in an effort to work for the greater good. When it comes to back-stabbing, the Right Wingers (claiming all the while to be the guardians of Christianity in this country), are second to none.

I'm sick of the extremists on both sides. They're the ones who helped get us into this mess. I would so love to be able to vote for Hillary in 2012. But, if she doesn't challenge BO, (or if he doesn't drop out ue to some as yet unforeseen reason), it would be nice to have another moderate to vote for. Swinging from one extreme to another is just counterproductive.

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freespirit wrote:

The first part of the article was great, and correct about the fact that Hillary would be in an excellent position to challenge BO. Of course, as you noted, Jen, there had to be a way for the right wingers to take a jab at the Clintons.

The reference to "back-stabbing Clintons" is typical right wing rhetoric. Both Bill and Hillary are known for reaching out to Republicans, in an effort to work for the greater good. When it comes to back-stabbing, the Right Wingers (claiming all the while to be the guardians of Christianity in this country), are second to none.

I'm sick of the extremists on both sides. They're the ones who helped get us into this mess. I would so love to be able to vote for Hillary in 2012. But, if she doesn't challenge BO, (or if he doesn't drop out ue to some as yet unforeseen reason), it would be nice to have another moderate to vote for. Swinging from one extreme to another is just counterproductive.


I don't like the word backstabbing but yes the Clinton's are out for revenage. Look at the Kennedys and the fact that Bill will only raise funds for those that backed his wife. He is most definately not a fan of dunderhead.

 



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What I find most intriguing are the similarities between this article and some of the latest entries at Hillary is 44. The basic theory is the same, especially the part about Bill and why he is taking on the Tea Party. Personally, my gut tells me that James Carville is in on this as well. There has to be a reason why he's acting crazy all of a sudden and I recall some conservative blogger (I think it was Andrew Breitbart, but I can't be sure) claiming that Carville is in cahoots with the Clintons.

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even Chris Mathews says Obama needs to show empathy because he is president during a time ,more than any other in recent history , when a lot of people are in pain and scared about their future

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