"Yes, those are the words of the president, last night at the Democratic National Committee fundraiser in Washington. After listing his administration's accomplishments and vowing that "our most urgent task is job creation," Obama pledged to keep fighting for a national health care system. "We knew this was hard," Obama said. And then he described a letter he received from a campaign worker who suffered from breast cancer and has since died:
I got a letter -- I got a note today from one of my staff -- they forwarded it to me -- from a woman in St. Louis who had been part of our campaign, very active, who had passed away from breast cancer. She didn't have insurance. She couldn't afford it, so she had put off having the kind of exams that she needed. And she had fought a tough battle for four years. All through the campaign she was fighting it, but finally she succumbed to it. And she insisted she's going to be buried in an Obama t-shirt.
Many observers have noted that the president often seems extraordinarily self-referential. It's all about him, they say. But even those critics might be a little taken aback by the "buried in an Obama t-shirt" remark. Is it really that much about him?
Others ask how some of Obama's statements would have been covered had George W. Bush made them -- for example, if Bush had pronounced "corpsman" as "corpse-man" (as Obama did twice at the National Prayer Breakfast). Had Bush mispronounced the word so badly -- and he did say some weird things -- it's likely many commentators would have rushed to fit it into their Bush-is-stupid narrative. Now, it's Obama who's sounding strange. And even putting aside the "corpsman" gaffe, what does the president's telling of the "buried in an Obama t-shirt" anecdote tell us about him? (By the way, this is not about the woman and her choice -- people do all sorts of things, and we respect the decisions they make -- but about the president's choosing to tell the story himself.)
The statement comes at 8:25 in the video below. You can see that the crowd laughed after the "t-shirt" comment -- perhaps because they thought it was funny or perhaps because it made them a bit uneasy. In any event, Obama was serious."
It tells you that he listens to superficial stuff. Things that have impact on him are surrounded around himself. He is the center of the universe, and that just does not do for one who purports to be a public servant. That's precisely the problem.
During 2008 primary and general election races, he did not really do LISTENING tours, rather pop artist appearances giving massive broadcast speeches. He moved past people simply touching their hands at best and not even staying around for any signing of books/papers.. There was really no actual nor time for connecting. This was in direct contrast to Hillary Clinton's appearances - she always makes it a point to take the longest path through the crowd as her jeep meanders to find her, to load her up and carry her off to the next station; she always kept going, and going, meeting and listening to people as she signed stuff or shook hands. You saw that her center of gravity was outside of herself.. it was in the person in front of her. And, that is something I will never forget from just a couple of brief encounters with this great person... and mine were even after the campaign was over.. yet she was herself, listening to the constituency.
Pres.Obama has no prayer of getting there. It is really not in him.
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As to the corpsman - this is the one example that confirmed for me what I had suspected for a long time. Pres.Obama seems to have read very advanced English books .. much more advanced for his age .. while still in Indonesia. When you are doing that, you give phonetics that pronounce all consonants and if you are not using the words again amidst the company you keep, you carry the same pronunciation. This is what we are hearing. He has not spoken that word aloud before and has not been corrected; so he stays with the way he learned it. I have MANY such words.
Another little tidbit that goes right along with this. MANY people who learn English as a second language have significant difficulty in FEELING THEIR WORDS. I do not think English was Pres.Obama's second language in Indonesia. But, if it was indeed so, some of his aloofness/inability to connect with the words and inability to convey more of the feelings may be coming from this. It takes work and it takes real internalizing and soul searching to put out the words if you are in translation mode. Again, I do not think this is the case, but if it is, some things would be a bit more explainable.
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Here is what really burns me the most about this whole story. At no point did he ever say her NAME. She was not a human being worthy of having her name mentioned as far as he was concerned. Her sole purpose in life apparently was for him to be able to say she would be buried in HIS shirt.
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME~This POTUS is the most narcissictic creature this nation has ever had forced on it by either party.
That drives me crazy too. Why didn't he mention the woman's name. He is just so full of ego that he doesn't know what to say. The corpseman is very sad and yes I want to hear the press talk about how stupid he is. They let him get away with all sorts of nonsense.
That drives me crazy too. Why didn't he mention the woman's name. He is just so full of ego that he doesn't know what to say. The corpseman is very sad and yes I want to hear the press talk about how stupid he is. They let him get away with all sorts of nonsense.
HMG, I almost got banned from this forum tonight because if I had actually used the words I wanted to use to describe this POTUS who didn't think HER worthy of her name mentioned...well, take out the T and U and that is my current feeling about this Narcissist in Chief.
That drives me crazy too. Why didn't he mention the woman's name. He is just so full of ego that he doesn't know what to say. The corpseman is very sad and yes I want to hear the press talk about how stupid he is. They let him get away with all sorts of nonsense.
HMG, I almost got banned from this forum tonight because if I had actually used the words I wanted to use to describe this POTUS who didn't think HER worthy of her name mentioned...well, take out the T and U and that is my current feeling about this Narcissist in Chief.
Sanders, great analysis. BHO not mentioning this lady bothers me. Remember all the crap we heard on the campaign trail? We later found out no such incident took place.
Kb, Thanks. Yes, this is something that I have given much thought to.. his inability to truly convey his feelings despite bombastic words and loud voice. They just do not touch my heart. They do not resonate.
One of the things that you can do is a "connectedness chart".. The inverse of the word map you did for writing compositions/essays. Do you recall those? If you did that on those few sentences, you will see he starts with himself and rapidly returns to himself.... and does not use the case to motivate and tie it to a positive message yet despite using so many words.
I got a letter -- I got a note today from one of my staff -- they forwarded it to me -- from a woman in St. Louis who had been part of our campaign, very active, who had passed away from breast cancer. She didn't have insurance. She couldn't afford it, so she had put off having the kind of exams that she needed. And she had fought a tough battle for four years. All through the campaign she was fighting it, but finally she succumbed to it. And she insisted she's going to be buried in an Obama t-shirt.
Here is another possible version and as I wrote this, I heard it in my brain in Hillary's voice with lots of empathy.
<Jane> in St. Louis who we had the pleasure of getting to know unfortunately passed away from breast cancer. My sadness comes from knowing that Jane, in her final days did not have insurance because she could not afford it. She fought a tough battle with cancer even as she was working on our campaign; health care reform was very important to her. I hope we can remember the valient heros among us as we work on this reform together; this is for the people so they can have the insurance when they need it.
-- Edited by Sanders on Tuesday 9th of February 2010 11:54:16 PM
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Kb, Thanks. Yes, this is something that I have given much thought to.. his inability to truly convey his feelings despite bombastic words and loud voice. They just do not touch my heart. They do not resonate.
One of the things that you can do is a "connectedness chart".. The inverse of the word map you did for writing compositions/essays. Do you recall those? If you did that on those few sentences, you will see he starts with himself and rapidly returns to himself.... and does not use the case to motivate and tie it to a positive message yet despite using so many words.
I got a letter -- I got a note today from one of my staff -- they forwarded it to me -- from a woman in St. Louis who had been part of our campaign, very active, who had passed away from breast cancer. She didn't have insurance. She couldn't afford it, so she had put off having the kind of exams that she needed. And she had fought a tough battle for four years. All through the campaign she was fighting it, but finally she succumbed to it. And she insisted she's going to be buried in an Obama t-shirt.
Here is another possible version and as I wrote this, I heard it in my brain in Hillary's voice with lots of empathy.
<Jane> in St. Louis who we had the pleasure of getting to know unfortunately passed away from breast cancer. My sadness comes from knowing that Jane, in her final days did not have insurance because she could not afford it. She fought a tough battle with cancer even as she was working on our campaign; health care reform was very important to her. I hope we can remember the valient heros among us as we work on this reform together; this is for the people so they can have the insurance when they need it.
-- Edited by Sanders on Tuesday 9th of February 2010 11:54:16 PM
Spot on, Sanders. Hillary would never have excluded the name of the deceased in this situation. Obama is wholey, soley and completely about Obama. I am so over this self self self promoting POTUS...and I guarantee you, none of the media will say a word about the fact that he never mentioned her name. They will all fawn over the fact that she was buried in his shirt.
I need to explain myself a bit about why I am so up in arms about this. Obama continually summarily dismissed the women of this country...and Hillary specifically in 2008.
To me, this is further proof of his utter disrepect toward women.
I just never hear him giving much credit/recognition to someone else... never whole-heartedly. Everything comes across as a bit too contrite.
One thing I noticed in his Massachusetts speech, in his Ohio, Florida and even in the New Hampshire speeches recently is he is making it a point to touch his nose in the middle of the speech. He is trying to make it look like his birdflipping is just a natural thing he does. Well, no, we know better. It is not a gesture he has done until he has gotten back on the trail. He knows that we Hillary voters know what he did.
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I need to explain myself a bit about why I am so up in arms about this. Obama continually summarily dismissed the women of this country...and Hillary specifically in 2008.
To me, this is further proof of his utter disrepect toward women.
Obama a progressive? Progressive my *ss.
Progressive doesn't mean not sexist. I have found them to be racist and sexist. Remember how the Liberal men were so sexist to Hillary.
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