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TOPIC: "Unrepealable?" (NationalReview 12/21/09)


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"Unrepealable?" (NationalReview 12/21/09)
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Tuesday, December 22, 2009

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Unrepealable? [Robert Costa]

Sen. Jim DeMint (R., S.C.) has thumbed through Harry Reid's manager's amendment and discovered some "particularly troubling" rule-change provisions, especially with regards to the proposed Independent Medicare Advisory Board, which he finds could be unrepealable:

Here's a transcript of the exchange between DeMint and the Senate president (h/t RedState):

DEMINT: But, Mr. President, as the chair has confirmed, Rule 22, paragraph 2, of the standing rules of the Senate, states that on a measure or motion to amend the Senate rules, the necessary affirmative vote shall be two-thirds of the senators present and voting. Let me go to the bill before us, because buried deep within the over 2,000 pages of this bill, we find a rather substantial change to the standing rules of the Senate. It is section 3403 and it begins on page 1,000 of the Reid substitute. . . . These provisions not only amend certain rules, they waive certain rules and create entirely new rules out of whole cloth.”

[The Senate President disagreed and said it was a change in procedure, not a change in rules, therefore the Senate precedent that a two-thirds vote is required to change the rules of the Senate does not apply.]

DEMINT: and so the language you see in this bill that specifically refers to a change in a rule is not a rule change, it’s a procedure change?

THE PRESIDING OFFICER: that is correct.

DEMINT: then I guess our rules mean nothing, do they, if they can redefine them. Thank you. and I do yield back.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER: the senate stands adjourned until 7:00 a.m. tomorrow.

As RedState wonders: Why did the Senate adjourn just when the questions got tough?

UPDATE: Some background from a GOP Senate staffer:

The bill changes some Senate rules to say we can't vote in a future Congress to repeal the IMAB (death panels). A senate rules change would require 67 votes for cloture on the bill, but the parliamentarian decided its a "procedural change" not a "rules change" so they only need 60... Makes no sense. Anyway, its likely we could still find a way to kill the death panels even though the bill changes the rules to say we can't (maybe deny them funding would work, we could change the senate rule it creates in a later Congress with a 67 senator vote), but it's clear the health bill changes Senate rules and needs 67 votes for cloture, but Frumin seems to be in Reid's back pocket and is making stuff up to save the bill. It also shows that this provision inparticular is very important to Dems. They chose this section out of all others to give the highest possible protection against change or repeal showing how insatiable their desire is to allow Washington bureaucrats to control our lives.

More from John McCormack over at The Weekly Standard:

According to page 1001 of the Reid bill, the purpose of the Independent Medical Advisory Board is to "reduce the per capita rate of growth in Medicare spending." For any fearmongers out there tempted to call an unelected body that recommends Medicare cuts a "Death Panel," let me be clear. According to page 1004, IMAB proposals "shall not include any recommendation to ration health care"—you know, just like the bill says there's no funding for abortion.

Paging Sarah Palin: the death panel is unkillable.

Update: A friend suggests that Congress could kill IMAB by refusing to fund it. So much for zombie death panels, I guess, for now. Also, the Senate could change the rules to rule repealing or amending IMAB in order. But that would take a 2/3 majority. The Democrats aren't playing by the rules; they may be violating the Constitution.

And from William Kristol:

Why did the authors of the legislation want to specially protect the Independent Medicare Advisory Board by making it difficult for future Congresses to legislate in that area? Because the heart of the bill is the attempt to get control of our health care permanently in the hands of federal bureaucrats, who would allegedly know better than doctors and patients what’s good for them, and who would cut access to care and the quality of care so there’s more money left over for various big government liberal social programs.

 

 

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Very informative.  This is confusing, but worth focusing on and understanding.

I am so so glad Sen.Jim DeMint has read it and has posed the question so openly.

I am increasingly impressed with Sen.Jim DeMint.


-- Edited by Sanders on Tuesday 22nd of December 2009 03:46:27 PM

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