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I hadn't seen this site on Daily Puma until tonight.  Probably just surfing sites too fast. lol.  They didn't call BO a liar, but say he got pretty close to lying.  Seems to me he's truthful only on a technicality regarding the bipartisan comment.  He may have honored the letter of "truthfulness", but certainly violated the spirit.


The Truth-O-Meter Says:

"The Senate Finance Committee approved a reform proposal that has both Democratic and Republican support."
Barack Obama on Saturday, October 17th, 2009 in his weekly address

Health care reform bill not that bipartisan

In his weekly address, President Barack Obama warned health insurance companies not to derail health care reform, and he praised the progress Congress has already made.
Obama said a broad coalition of supporters including "doctors and nurses, workers and businesses, hospitals and even drug companies — folks who represent different parties and perspectives, including leading Democrats and many leading Republicans" were pushing reform forward.
"Just this week, the Senate Finance Committee approved a reform proposal that has both Democratic and Republican support," he said.
It was the last statement that caught our attention. Leaders of the majority party often boast about bipartisan support when in fact they have only a handful of votes from the minority. But in this case, Obama so far has just one Republican in the Senate.
The Senate Finance Committee voted to approve a version of the health care overhaul on a vote of 14-9 on Oct. 13. Sen. Olympia Snowe, a Republican from Maine, voted with the Democrats. Every other Republican on the committee opposed the measure.
Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa, the ranking Republican member on the committee, called the measure partisan and deeply flawed.
So Obama is technically correct that the proposal had "Democratic and Republican support." But he didn't mention that it got only one Republican vote, which meant the nine other GOP senators voted against it. That's not exactly a robust example of bipartisanship. So we rate his statement Barely True.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/oct/19/barack-obama/health-care-reform-bipartsian/

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My two cents, neatly condensed by RiverDaughter:

All in quotes:

WaPo reports that the majority of Americans support a public option. Why oh Why Can’t we have a real democratic administration and congress now?

On the issue that has been a flash point in the national debate, 57 percent of all Americans now favor a public insurance option, while 40 percent are opposed. Support has risen since mid-August, when a bare majority, 52 percent, said they favored it. (In a June Post-ABC poll, support had been at 62 percent.)

If run by the states and available only to those who lack affordable private options, support for a public plan jumps to 76 percent. Under those circumstances, even a majority of Republicans, 56 percent, would be supportive, about double their level of support without such a limitation.

Joe Sudbay:

 

I just don’t think these folks get how, hmmm, how can I put this, how nonsensical it sounds to say, Obama really thinks the public option is “the best possible choice,” but he won’t fight for it. Maybe they think that messaging works. It doesn’t. Sounds weak. If he’s not going to fight for the “best possible choice,” what will he fight for? That’s the question I have.

Dan Riehl:

So, what will Obama fight for? Anything he knows he can win ahead of time, or something that won’t damage his image if he loses. That’s my take, any way. I’m not sure it says good things about his so-called leadership if he’s always going to put his own ambitions and image before anything else. But I do think that’s precisely what the left got with Obama.

Audacious? Well, in the mirror, perhaps. But when it comes to his leadership, not so much. And I think we can write bold and new off, as well.

[snip]

We tried to tell people that Obama’s habit of voting “present” on anything remotely controversial was a warning sign, but did they listen?

No they did not.

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http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/the-buck-stops-where/



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Still not sold on Health care reform or the public option but LOL on the Obama sucks photo.  I love Riversdaughter.

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