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TOPIC: (if it's so great - why poll this?) YOUR HEALTH REPORT Canadian health care wait times (CBCNews 8/8/09)


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If socialized healthcare is so good, why is the CBC asking this question? But the REAL TELLING STORY is in the COMMENTS on this poll.  READ them and have a greater understanding of what socialized healthcare means.  It changes everything. It is a completely different mindset to most Americans.

(I just LOVE the photo - regular day in socialized healthcare?)

.YOUR HEALTH REPORT

Canadian health care wait times

Last Updated: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 | 4:16 PM ET

Patients line up on hospital beds outside the crowded emergency room at Montreal's Sacre Coeur Hospital. (Paul Chiasson/Canadian Press)Patients line up on hospital beds outside the crowded emergency room at Montreal's Sacre Coeur Hospital. (Paul Chiasson/Canadian Press)

"............As Canadians, we're used to waiting for health care. But is it getting better?

Tell us about your experience the last time you had to be treated. In particular, we want to know what the wait time was for your first line of contact with the health care system. Where did you go when you needed care and how long did you wait?

You can also see what others are saying and search wait times across the country..................."

 

Pretty Fair and Balanced commentary:

JoeGopher wrote:Posted 2009/08/04
at 2:27 PM ET
Walter303 wr

You have a choice

Choose the US system of private insurance and health care.

Insurance will cost you about $750 a month. If you don't have insurance and you need major care you will need to sell your house

Stay in BC, get good care. If it is urgent you get treated right away.
Pay $94can to the Provincial medical insurance for a married couple. About $110 for a family.

Why do you think that so many companies are going bancrupt for providing medical insurance in the US. No one is in control.

Get real
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Apparently you forgot we pay also taxes. 
In Sask. 44% of every tax dollar goes to health care.

And there are several more choices, we could copy or learn from any of the 29 countries that have better health care than we do.

The US system is ranked lower than ours, we'd be foolish to copy it.
But there are many systems better, we'd be foolish not to learn from them.



-- Edited by thebword on Sunday 9th of August 2009 01:29:37 PM

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You can also see what others are saying and search wait times across the country.

http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2009/07/29/f-yv-health-wait-times-search.html



-- Edited by thebword on Sunday 9th of August 2009 01:38:22 PM

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Yes, and many Americans think "FREE" is such a good deal.

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I have to say, this article is a little off. I LIVE up here and I have never waited very long for a specialist or surgery or anything like that. NOW if you live in a great big city and go to emergency on a Saturday night...you might have to wait. But I see that in the United States too.

This is all hype. I have lived in FOUR Canadian cities and never seen what you are talking about except at HUGE big hospital waiting rooms in emergency and I've seen the same when I'm at home too in emergency.

Now it's "not free" BUT it comes out of our taxes and it IS cheaper than my entire family pays at home in the U.S. for their insurance company payments which do not cover everything and which they CAN be cut off from if they get and stay sick for too long.

Also, it appears this is a CBC survey when you do the search and after you search your hospital, doctor, specialist etc. you can tell them about your experience. My hospitals are all there so thanks for the link because I can tell them what a fantastic job Children's Hospital of Eastern Ontario has done as well as the others!

-- Edited by Alice Paul on Sunday 9th of August 2009 03:54:48 PM

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I am not sure what I think about health care reform.  I know I am not crazy about a single payer system I don't want the government inside of my bedroom or my doctors office or anywhere else in my life.  I listen to both sides and both sides make valid points but I know I do not want a single payer system.

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HMG, the government doesn't tell anyone here what doctor to see, what procedure to have, what specialist they can have or what hospital you can go to. One of the reasons I ended up here was because the HMO's took over and were telling people what doctor they could and could not go to or cutting you off. What if you don't like your doctor??

I don't know which single payer system in the world tells the doctor what services he can provide but, that is not the way it is done here. All decisions are between you and the doctor and that's all. It's just different in how it's paid for. Instead of buying private insurance you pay a margin in your taxes. It's cheaper this way and nobody is left out.

I didn't think I would like it as I had the same concerns as you having grown up on a ton of misconceptions about how it works. I wasn't sure I would benefit or want someone making my decisions...well that didn't happen. It's not even legal for the government to tell anyone in Canada what service they can get from their doctor.

It's paid for publicly but, it's PRIVATE care. Just paid for differently so everyone can be covered. If they had it back home I would move there in a heartbeat. I'd get cut off medicare or medicaid with my health issues. I saw them cut my grandma off.

I wish there wasn't so much misinformation about what the Canadian health care system is and is not, has and doesn't have, how it operates and doesn't operate. There is a ton of total baloney out there. A LOT of Americans DO come here for care and prescriptions too.

In fact so many were coming they had to change our health care cards to have photos on them so Americans living here couldn't share their provincial cards with their families from the U.S. who wanted care here. All you do is show your card,....and get your care. No bill to pay.

No it's not "free" everyone pays into it. But it is CHEAPER this way and I have a step dad who is a doctor and my mom was a nurse in the U.S....the level of care here is the SAME as at home.

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