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TOPIC: Weird theory about Hillary, 2012, and "marginalization"


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I was thinking about all the "Hillary is being marginalized" stories that we've seen in the press these past few weeks. Some of us have blamed these stories on the Repubs, some have blamed Obama, and some think it's just the media being their usual selves. All of these are possible, but I thought of something else. I'm not saying I believe it, but I figured I'd throw it out here anyway...

What if Hillary is responsible for leaking these stories to the press? What if it's all part of her plan for 2012? Sounds crazy, I know, but the marginalization narrative does lay the groundwork for her to quit (or for Obama to fire her) and then she can jump off the sinking ship and launch her 2012 campaign. It makes 0 look like the bad guy, mistreating the one member of his cabinet who is doing a fantastic job and who has high public approval ratings.

I don't know... Like I said, it's just an idea that popped into my head and I thought I would share it with y'all.

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Anything is possible.
I don't know I don't trust a damn thing out of either the Administration's mouth nor do I trust a damn thing out of the mouth of the media.

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It is always possible. Hill is not done yet and she knows she's not either.

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mslas4hillary wrote:

It is always possible. Hill is not done yet and she knows she's not either.




 She knows it and I know it.



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Jen, I think it's a pretty good theory. Guess we won't know for a while, yet, what's going on, but I agree - she ain't done yet. I love that Hill.

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She has some tough course to navigate to run in 2012. I don't think it will happen but I would be thrilled if it did. I can't stand that she has anything to do with this administration.

I wish she had stayed my Senator, our State really needed her. When she resigned to take up SOS our State turned into a joke. Gov. Paterson made appointing her replacement into a 3 ring circus. If Hillary had kept her Senate seat and finished her term here (NY) she could have raised some hell in the process. She would have had the Senate floor and the medias attention to challenge Obama's administration. As Obama's administration falls apart and his view of where he wants to take our country becomes clearer to all, she would have been in just the right place. She could have won the admiration of both non-liberal Dems. and non-Hillary-hating Reps.. That would have put her in be in good standing for 2012. And she would have been able to announce a 2012 run without the tricky political maneuvers a candidacy for her would now demand.

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Yes she was a great senator I miss her here a lot.

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Jen the Michigander wrote:
What if Hillary is responsible for leaking these stories to the press? What if it's all part of her plan for 2012?

No.  She would NEVER do that.

Hillary is the epitome of loyalty.  She is loyal, to a fault.

 



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I think all this occurs because of Obama. How many of us trust him? 0

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Obama is a fool and he is creepy.



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freespirit wrote:

Jen, I think it's a pretty good theory. Guess we won't know for a while, yet, what's going on, but I agree - she ain't done yet. I love that Hill.



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LOL, I think Jen here has a very strategic mind, hope you don't begrudge me saying so. I haven't seen much lately on this, but her approval ratings have consistently been higher than Obama's, which pretty well suck these days. Hillary will have to have the democrat party split in 2012 in order for this to work, or Obama will have to be convinced he can't win like LBJ in '68. I doubt she's leaking these reports herself, it's probably coming just from Obama again.

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She'll know when it's time.  Meanwhile, she's just warming up.  Keep dropping notes to her Dipnote.

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I fear if BHO really brings this country down, Americans will equate her with his administration. We know her and we've always supported her. If she intends to run, how can we get that momentum back and separate her from BHO and his policies?

We'll have one hell of a fight, but I'm up for the battle!

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I don't think Hillary would be leaking such stories. If she says she is doing her job with integrity then that's just exactly what she is doing. Besides, if she were to do such a thing it would hurt her later on because nobody in the so called media would keep quiet about it. They'd let the whole world know it was Hillary doing the leaking...hell she was accused of the onion head hat leak when she didn't even do it, it was Drudge that released that photo..NOT Hillary's campaign. I KNOW because I saw the photo a week before the uproar ON DRUDGE. But the media blamed that so called "leaked photo" on Hillary's campaign and kept repeating that lie till there are people today who still believe it...they are simply without any morals.

Knowing this, Hillary is going to do her job with the utmost in moral integrity...she's not going to put herself in a position to have anyone say she did not and ruin her record as S.O.S.

So far, she's the best damned S.O.S. of my entire lifetime. People around the world love her and respond to her in a way I've not seen happen in many, many a year to anyone else. THAT is enough to pave the way for her in the future run she IS going to make.

I've got a Hillary fund, the economy is bad right now, real bad but, a tiny bit goes in there each month so if she does run again, I'm READY to help her beat back the onslaught. We can't let them get away with taking this opportunity from the country again. And Hillary never just gives up trying to do the right thing for America's citizens...I think she will run again, and I think this time she will be allowed to win...like she did THIS time. We need to vote out every last person who did not stand with her, who helped Obama cheat his way in against her before she does run!! She will!!

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i trust her to know when the time is right

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foxyladi14 wrote:

i trust her to know when the time is right


Ditto.  As much as I would like her to run for 2012.. whatever she opts will be the best choice for her.

I will standby to actively support my best friend's goals... from newpaper blogs... to Forums... to Blog site... All the way to Pennsylvania Avenue.
You can count on my loyalty, my friend blankstare !

 



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I will support her too. I'll donate and I'll stand in the very butt numbing Midatlantic January to watch her inauguration from the National mall. I'll be there through rain sleet or snow.

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Hillary is most loyal to the President.  The media started all the rumors or gossip whatever.  On Meet the Press last sunday she told us many things about her relationship with BHO. I trust her judgement.  She has been getting such high marks on the job she is doing as Sec. of State. She loves her job and it shows.  I would no way feel she would ever be disloyal.  Lots can happen before 2012 so let her shine among us as we all watch with wonder and amazement of this wonderful Sec. of State "Hillary Clinton".

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pcfs wrote:

Hillary is most loyal to the President.  The media started all the rumors or gossip whatever.  On Meet the Press last sunday she told us many things about her relationship with BHO. I trust her judgement.  She has been getting such high marks on the job she is doing as Sec. of State. She loves her job and it shows.  I would no way feel she would ever be disloyal.  Lots can happen before 2012 so let her shine among us as we all watch with wonder and amazement of this wonderful Sec. of State "Hillary Clinton".



She's not loyal to that President she is loyal to all Presidents she never disrespected GWB either. Hillary is loyal to her Country. Regardless I am waiting for her and can't wait to take on the world for her.
The enemy is going to be the news media they will be tough oppenants but we can beat them.

 



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pcfs wrote:

Hillary is most loyal to the President.  The media started all the rumors or gossip whatever.  On Meet the Press last sunday she told us many things about her relationship with BHO. I trust her judgement.  She has been getting such high marks on the job she is doing as Sec. of State. She loves her job and it shows.  I would no way feel she would ever be disloyal.  Lots can happen before 2012 so let her shine among us as we all watch with wonder and amazement of this wonderful Sec. of State "Hillary Clinton".



She's not loyal to that President she is loyal to all Presidents she never disrespected GWB either. Hillary is loyal to her Country. Regardless I am waiting for her and can't wait to take on the world for her.
The enemy is going to be the news media they will be tough oppenants but we can beat them.

 



The world is waiting my friend and so are we.  We sure can beat the news media every day. 

 



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pcfs wrote:

Hillary is most loyal to the President.  The media started all the rumors or gossip whatever.  On Meet the Press last sunday she told us many things about her relationship with BHO. I trust her judgement.  She has been getting such high marks on the job she is doing as Sec. of State. She loves her job and it shows.  I would no way feel she would ever be disloyal.  Lots can happen before 2012 so let her shine among us as we all watch with wonder and amazement of this wonderful Sec. of State "Hillary Clinton".



I wholeheartedly agree with you.  Hillary is filled with integrity and would not and does not have any ulterior motives behind her actions.  I feel that the MSM saw Hillary's poll numbers and juxtaposed them to BO's slipping numbers, and true to form, freaked at her unshakeable popularity and tenacity.  She's incredible and they all know it.  With that said, I also believe Hillary when she says she has no desire or inclination to go down the Presidential candidacy road again.  I have also heard Bill Clinton talking about how difficult it was for him, too, personally, professionally, financially and physically.

So, I will continue to believe what she says, and trust her judgment, and support her 100%.

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-- Edited by ginamc on Saturday 1st of August 2009 07:05:34 PM

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OMGOSH ginamac, I love your avatar!

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ginamc, Yes, Love your Avatar. It really shows the empathetic person in her.  She is so much bigger than the entire capital city - she really is.



-- Edited by Sanders on Sunday 2nd of August 2009 03:41:49 AM

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