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As you post replies, you will want to be bring good articles and include them in reply or even start new threads. As a reader and fellow blogger, I would really like to see you bring good articles.

How?

Posting articles is easy once we learn how.  This thread is long.. but you dont need to know everything to get started.  Just this one top item is sufficient to get started with contributing an article post.  Baby steps... 

If you are writing your own article, Give it a good title. On this thread, I wanted the title to be short for STICKY.. but a good title would for a regular article would be something like this.

Posting articles (HillarysWorld, 7-31-09) - by Sanders
It is your post. So, dont have any links. You dont have to quote anyone.

If you are quoting an article, copy the title, source, date.

Title of the article as given (Source, mm-dd-yy)


Now, start the content.

I like to repeat the title so that if the text is QUOTEd and carried to another thread, it also includes the title I had given it initially.

Add link to the article. Take a close look at the link to make sure it is trimmed down and does not have extra stuff such as computer id, source article, RSS feed or computer-type for which to format, etc... which is the trailing end of the link. Test the edited down link. You can add link to the article either at the top or the bottom. I prefer to add at the top right below the title.
Note that it is not sufficient to put the link - it will not convert to a live link. It will simply be text as follows:
http://hillarysworld.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=132683&p=3&topicID=29778211
To convert to live link (i.e., clickable link), you have to use select the text you want to live-link to and use the chain link icon at the top and Insert the link
http://hillarysworld.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=132683&p=3&topicID=29778211

Now, bring a portion of text that you want to bring that will help entice the reader to go read the full article.

Put in continued at.. or Read more at.

Go to the bottom to "Tags" and write a couple of key words that will help find the article in searches. Do not forget this step.

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I edited this by clicking on "MORE" and using the pull down menu to "Edit Content". I moved around the post to make it read better. Did "Show Preview" and "Submit Post" - hence the timestamp below.



-- Edited by Sanders on Saturday 1st of August 2009 01:02:34 PM

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It is a bit tricky.. but works.

The IMPORTANT thing to remember is to make Quote operation the LAST step before you submit the article.

Bring the content.

Content 1

Content 2

Content 3

Now, I am going up and I will put Content1 in quote box, then, Content 2 in Quote Box and then Content 3 in Quote box. Then, I will Submit. There will be no action after I put them in Quote box or it will mess it up. The only thing I can do if I start editing is to remove the entire quote box/quote boxes and start over again.  here I go to start the Quote operations [the icon that looks like sparkbb_quote.gif]and Submit.

and the area will look as follows just before I submit.  [Of course, I moved things around. Dont try that. I am just doing this to show how it looks afterwards]

Content 1

Content 2

Content 3

As soon as It looks like the Quote " and "  are visible correctly, I submit.
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Notice I came back to edit this post.. and the result is to get one of these at the bottom. If I come and edit again, will get another one. I just delete the prior edit stamp and leave only the last edit.
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I came to edit here a second time... and added a Subject title to this item.  I deleted prior Edit note (which I could have left in) and added this remark.  There will be a second edit note at the bottom just below this.


-- Edited by Sanders on Friday 31st of July 2009 04:38:42 PM

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First step

Copy the URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apYitS1tRVU&feature=fvw
Remove the extra stuff.. &feature=fvw (everything including and after &).

[You can just copy the first part upto and excluding the &]


Second step

Start a new post (or reply)


Method 1:  Embedding YouTube - using direct code:

[video = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apYitS1tRVU]
without the blanks around =
Note: Exclude everything after and including & in the youtube URL

Method 2:  Embedding YouTube using the
sparkbb_media.gifin the Editor pad.

Click on sparkbb_media.gifin the editor pad

Paste http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apYitS1tRVU  and submit

Result

You will get this



You can check for that by clicking on "Show Preview"  - if you do not see that, you can remove what you posted, and try again using the direct code method.


-- Edited by Sanders on Thursday 4th of February 2010 12:14:31 PM

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Previewing post is a good thing, says Martha in house!
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Just to make sure everything looks fine before "Submit Post"  Click on "Show Preview" and if it does not look correct, "Clear Preview" and edit the post in in ongoing draft mode before submitting it.

This is especially good when you are doing Quote or putting in Video.



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Following your own posts.. may or may not work for you.


How to follow your own posts:
To follow your post, i.e., to get notified when someone responds on your posts, click on "Email me whenever there is a new post to this topic" 

Do I recommend it?

Well, it depends.  If you have a blog page and you are taking a link to that page to promote it on many sites, you probably want to follow your posts.

But if you are focused on a few blog boards and you are participants... you just go to your own profile page, click on your own post link and revisit your own threads and posts.  I am in the latter category at present.   (I never do this because I get barrage of emails on work all day long and I cannot take any more e-intrusion than I have already. I just come to my profile, click on all posts, and go back to look at my threads and my posts to see where I have to reply to.)

However, when I post on newspaper articles 'out there' to promote certain women's causes and volunteerism, I like to put in an alert.. Those threads do not have much activity, and I really do not want to miss someone who is asking for advise or is asking for guidance.. or worse yet is someone in need of help.

I am going to preview this post to make sure that topics have correct sub-titles and I would be proud of how it looks.. and that I do not have too many typos (lol) nor really bad English! (Please forgive me; English requires constant work for me. It is not ESL here, it is ETL - English as third language).

Sure enough, I found some typos. Sometimes I find them after I post.. And I do come back to edit them.  Now, I 'Submit Post.'


-- Edited by Sanders on Sunday 2nd of August 2009 03:52:48 AM

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(gulp) ok

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LOL... This is a quick reply to prior post (hence I do not quote).

It is really simple. The LOOONG version should not dissuade. It is intended to CLARIFY and when we write that LOOONG vesion, it is intended for the novice. Most of you are not novices. smile.gif

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Sanders wrote:

LOL... This is a quick reply to prior post (hence I do not quote).

It is really simple. The LOOONG version should not dissuade. It is intended to CLARIFY and when we write that LOOONG vesion, it is intended for the novice. Most of you are not novices. smile.gif



i am

 



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foxyladi14 wrote:
Sanders wrote:
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It is really simple. The LOOONG version should not dissuade. It is intended to CLARIFY and when we write that LOOONG vesion, it is intended for the novice. Most of you are not novices. smile.gif


i am

In that case, just follow the first post at the top of the thread for now. Find a good article out there and bring and post.  And that will get you started. It is really a lot of fun to start threads and lead the discussion. :)

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Notice how I replied.. I edited out the irrelevant/low relevent part and replaced it with []
I also removed blank lines, and added my reply BELOW the LAST LINE -- you have to click on the end of the line and hit <Return> to get to the new line where to start your reply.

Occasionally, the quoted text is long/has mistakes... Edit it down. I also tend to correct typos in the remaining segment that is still quoted, knowing that the original poster will probably come around and correct them in the original post.  Try not to quote anything embarassing that neither the poster (on a different/saner day) nor a third party would want to see in a blog.  It is just common courtesy. [A real life example, you wouldnt want a slurry conversation from the bar table repeated in broad daylight.]

I came back to this post and changed the font size of the quoted text.  It is simply an example to show how to do various things. In a reply that immediately follows someone, the etiquette is to NOT quote, rather simply reply.  If you find that you replied and someone posted something intervening in the meanwhile, you can go to the prior post, do a QUOTE, then cut and bring it down to your post by 'MORE -> ' Edit Post, paste, Submit Post.



-- Edited by Sanders on Sunday 2nd of August 2009 03:55:56 AM

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Great tutorial!  Thank you.blankstare

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Sanders, Thanks for all the help. It takes me longer to get things right. The links I post need to cut off trailing garbage. I hope to be more careful. But if I find a good or even bad ariticle I would like to post so we see all the news on Hillary that is out there. Mostly I post good news on Madame Sec. I love her work at the State Dept.

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pcfs wrote:

Sanders, Thanks for all the help. It takes me longer to get things right. The links I post need to cut off trailing garbage. I hope to be more careful. But if I find a good or even bad ariticle I would like to post so we see all the news on Hillary that is out there. Mostly I post good news on Madame Sec. I love her work at the State Dept.




Don't worry about getting things wrong, just go ahead and post, and do the best you can.  We're all still learning the quirks of this new board software.

Probably the most important thing would be:

1. Always provide credit when you are taking material from another site.  This includes providing a link to the original article, noting the author's name (if you can find it), recognizing the publisher of the site (for example, the magazine that publishes it), and making it clear some how that these words are not your own, but the words of a different author.  (The best way to do that is with the quote box, but I've been having issues myself getting that to work).

 



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One tip on the quote box:

My main browser I use is IE 8, and for whatever reason, the quoting functionality doesn't work right with that browser.

When I use Firefox 3.5, all this stuff works fine, so at least for now, I'm using Firefox as my main browser for this site.  Not sure how other browsers will do with things, so if anybody has experience with other ones, please let us know how they work out.

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BB, yes, that very well could be the issue. I use FireFox for my blogging. I do find that it is important to have a blankline before QUOTE and make QUOTE the last action. Beyond that, if you are editing, you can only use "Back Space" and not select region and cut within the quoted text. I am able to add to the regions outside the quote box. It has taken a bit of figuring things out.

Attribution / Credit where it is due and deserved
I'll re-emphasize giving credit. i.e., attribution. If we function more as a PROMOTER of the source document, it is a better approach. Be sure to ENCOURAGE people to open the source document and look at the originating document. The REAL originating site deserves that credit.

Crediting a fellow blogger:  Sometimes a fellow blogger here has done extensive work on a post, and you are taking content of that towards another blog. Be a good sibling/cousin, will you?  Give the fellow sibling (using their Moniker id and not their name!) some credit in your post, and add a link to their original post that has more content. It makes for a better family.

Err on the side of giving credit, and view your post as a bit of a promotion of who you are publicizing. This is important.  If you keep this in mind you will be careful to promote good articles and better writers.

Trimming the links
Links brought over often have extraneous "stuff" in the trailing end, some of which is unnecessary, some 'give out information' about the source and some are private information (e.g., session id/computer id).

Be sure to take out extraneous stuff that may give private information that you would rather not make public..

Bloggers need to keep a look out for each other and let the originating blogger know if they find such extra stuff in there.

Be a good fellow blogger. The community will love you for it.  Karma is a good thing. (Or bad, if you are on its bad side.  It can be really bad if you garner a lot of bad karma or a little of bad karma with the wrong behemoth).  Thanks.


-- Edited by Sanders on Sunday 2nd of August 2009 04:15:12 AM

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I can't stay long, as I'm trying to make a Baker's Coconut cut-up cake (Fox Terrier), but I have found that if I hit "Enter" once, the quote feature seems to work.  I'm talking about when you start from the top of the page - hit "Enter" once, then hit the quote symbols above, then put your quote in there.  Hey, it worked for me.smile  Not that other people's ideas aren't better - I just haven't had a chance to try them yet!

To give you an idea of what we're working with here, I JUST figured out that, if you want brown coconut, you have to TOAST it, not DYE it!  At least, I'm hoping that's the case...

-- Edited by Alex on Saturday 1st of August 2009 01:34:52 PM

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Alex, yes, that is quite possible. It is often (but not always) when I attempt QUOTE at the very top first line that I have the issue. [Technically speaking that line ought to be for a repeat of the header, i.e., for attribution.] 

The issue happens in the entire post. You will see as you use this "primer" that it helps to make QUOTE the last step.  If it does not work, remove the entire quote, or clear the content all together, and re-start.  I tend to copy and past the content  into a temp file just to have it in-hand, just before starting QUOTE.. so I dont have to re-start from scratch if the QUOTE process fails..



-- Edited by Sanders on Sunday 2nd of August 2009 04:12:23 AM

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Asked & Answered: How do I delete all those edit stamps?
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Asked & Answered: How do I delete all those edit stamps?


You simply scroll down and delete old edit time stamps; when you submit, you will have the latest timestamp inserted automatically (which cannot be controlled).




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I love how you guys keep changing the colors!  I think we should change the name to "Hillary's Psychodelic Chameleon World."wink

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Sanders thanks this thread explains a lot.

Alex- I like the colors too. My favorite was the purple with the diagnol stripes.

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Since the quote does not work well, use big bold " in the beginning and end of the quoted section.

That is " - bolded and font size changed to the highest.

That's what I have been doing lately.

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USING RICH EDITOR

Go to your Profile -> Settings

and set

Advanced Editor -- YES

You will be able to copy and past with formats and links.  Then, You just have to edit out the unwanted parts.


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