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freespirit · Moderator

Hanging On (PumaPac) 09-20-09 It's hard out here for a Puma.

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

We need to refocus and regroup. PUMA is desperately needed not only for Democrats but Republicans who are sick of the right wingers in their party. PUMA needs to just regroup.

mjoy · silver

so agree! still against sexism and socialism and all this other ism business this adm is trying to pull and would love to have a FREE PRESS once again!! oh ya what is that?

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

mjoy wrote:

so agree! still against sexism and socialism and all this other ism business this adm is trying to pull and would love to have a FREE PRESS once again!! oh ya what is that?

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Lynne · Platinum

Action Plan:

1. Develop :

Mission Statement/Plan
Objectives
Who we are
What we want

2. Identify major players- such as Riverdaughter, Proud Military Mom...

3. Identify our allies/partners (PUMA or non-PUMA)

4. Establish a communication network so we can communicate with our allies.

Need to have contact info such as email and contact names at various blogs/forums

5. After some of the above has been done, then we can schedule a conference call. But someone suggested it would be best if we pounce around ideas at this forum before inviviting others.

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Do we want this information in the open?

Lynne · Platinum

Who are PUMA?

We are Democrats, Republicans, Independents
We are Americans
We are Patriots
Who place Country before Party

We are true grass roots- no astroturf to be found
We are moderates- both liberal moderates and conservative moderates

What do we want?

Fair elections
Combat sexism & media bias
Politicians to be public servants and listen to the public

Lynne · Platinum

Communication network
1. email list of puma forums/blogs

2. email list of allies- such as some of the Palin groups

3. We need a way to master the internet like the opposition in the primaries- get a system in place to efficiently Digg and Twitter

4. I will pull out my master spreadsheet of email and phone numbers for radio, tv and news media.

5. Need a way to get important action item information to other forums/blogs in an efficient manner

Calico · Moderator

Just some random thoughts:

I agree, if PUMA is to become viable again, it will need to reorganize. New life is needed for it. Whether it will be successful or not, I don't know at this point . . ., but the potential is there, if done correctly.

A mission statement needs to be developed. And, it should be short and to the point (i.e., three bullet points . . . anything more gets lost in the translation, so to speak).

Core leadership members need to be identified. Someone(s) need(s) to be the "face" of PUMA and be available to do what is necessary to promote PUMA.

"Brainstorming" sessions need to take place among the initial core group. This could be done via a chat room, forum, or conference call. It is difficult to get everyone together at the same time, so I would recommend doing it via a forum setting, such as this one, or in a chat room setting.

It will take work and dedication.

Just read Lynne's posts . . . this is the right track to get on . . .

Lynne, it sounds like you have been a Project Manager too. smile

Alex · Diamond

If we place Country before Party, which I wholeheartedly agree with, we need to place the Constitution before Obama and say (please see signature below). No wonder Riverdaughter is watching people apply make-up. As long as we're not addressing the main problem - that Congress and the Supreme Court installed a non-eligible person into the White House - then there will be NO peace - too many patriotic people aren't going to let this slide!

It's like raving about the furniture arrangement while the house is on fire.

Building 4112 · Moderator

We've have some roughest of times, during the election, and now. I think we are the toughest of all, we stay in the fight against sexism. I don't care how you do it, cause I will not be looking down upon you, but will walk in sisterhood with you!

-- Edited by Building 4112 on Monday 21st of September 2009 08:05:29 PM

freespirit · Moderator

Calico wrote:

Just some random thoughts:

I agree, if PUMA is to become viable again, it will need to reorganize. New life is needed for it. Whether it will be successful or not, I don't know at this point . . ., but the potential is there, if done correctly.

A mission statement needs to be developed. And, it should be short and to the point (i.e., three bullet points . . . anything more gets lost in the translation, so to speak).

Core leadership members need to be identified. Someone(s) need(s) to be the "face" of PUMA and be available to do what is necessary to promote PUMA.

"Brainstorming" sessions need to take place among the initial core group. This could be done via a chat room, forum, or conference call. It is difficult to get everyone together at the same time, so I would recommend doing it via a forum setting, such as this one, or in a chat room setting.

It will take work and dedication.

Just read Lynne's posts . . . this is the right track to get on . . .

Lynne, it sounds like you have been a Project Manager too.

Totally Agree with this, Calico, and with Lynne's comments. I think, however, that Lynne hit on an issue we're going to deal with - the Palin issue. Most of us here have said we like Palin, and would have no problem joining forces with her supporters. But, some of the folks who are out-spoken, long term Pumas have expressed that they have difficulty with this - Riverdaughter, I believe is one of these.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a non-issue. In fact, there are many non-issues that divide us, imo.

To me, the questions are - are any of these divisive issues deal breakers? Is there a way that those who have been leaders in PUMA can reconcile their differences and join forces again? Does it matter whether they can and do?

As a way to at least begin a dialogue about this, possibly, we could develop a letter noting our concerns about Puma, our hopes for strengthening the movement, some of the suggestions we have about establishing goals, mission statement, etc, and send it to people who identify themselves with Puma. It shouldn't be too hard to compile a list to work from.

Just one suggestion.

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

Palin is part of the whole left wing vs right wing problem that is popping up all over facebook. Palin and Health Care seem to be the biggies in that area.

Carolyn_Rodham · gold

I'm sort of outof the loop on this one -- can anyone tell me what the PUMA infighting is about?

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

Carolyn_Rodham wrote:

I'm sort of outof the loop on this one -- can anyone tell me what the PUMA infighting is about?

It seems to be that some PUMA are having differences of opinion that is leading to fighting among the different groups.
Sarah Palin and Health Care Debates seem to be what is causing the problems. Some on the left feel that PUMA is taking to much of a right wing attitude.
The Right Wing of the party is feeling like they are being insulted because the Liberals think ALL of us should agree with Government run health care and back any plan that comes out of this Administration regarding Universal Health care.
The Conservatives think the plan is to much and its expensive. Conservatives also think the bill has to much government control.
The forums seem to not have been affected but its all over facebook and other social networking sites.

Jen the Michigander · SuperModerator

I see a lot of good ideas here. I can think of one more: Not only does the PUMA movement need visible leaders to serve as the "face" of the movement, those leaders absolutely must be MEDIA TRAINED. There was no time for this last year, but we have time now. Any PUMA who agrees to be interviewed by either the print or televised media is entering a hostile environment. She can expect to be interrupted, side-tracked, race baited, ridiculed, taken out of context, etc. Whoever this person is, she needs to know how to deal with this while still getting her point across.

Hillarysmygirl16 · Administrator

Jen the Michigander wrote:

I see a lot of good ideas here. I can think of one more: Not only does the PUMA movement need visible leaders to serve as the "face" of the movement, those leaders absolutely must be MEDIA TRAINED. There was no time for this last year, but we have time now. Any PUMA who agrees to be interviewed by either the print or televised media is entering a hostile environment. She can expect to be interrupted, side-tracked, race baited, ridiculed, taken out of context, etc. Whoever this person is, she needs to know how to deal with this while still getting her point across.

Yes and one way to avoid the race baiting must be having one of those faces at least be African American. People have to see this as beyond race.
We do need to train people.
We also had a little bit of problems last year with some people who were sort of Prima Donas. They need to cut that out. Whomever is going to be the face of PUMA has to be willing to put ego aside for the good of PUMA.

freespirit · Moderator

Hillarysmygirl16 wrote:

Jen the Michigander wrote:

I see a lot of good ideas here. I can think of one more: Not only does the PUMA movement need visible leaders to serve as the "face" of the movement, those leaders absolutely must be MEDIA TRAINED. There was no time for this last year, but we have time now. Any PUMA who agrees to be interviewed by either the print or televised media is entering a hostile environment. She can expect to be interrupted, side-tracked, race baited, ridiculed, taken out of context, etc. Whoever this person is, she needs to know how to deal with this while still getting her point across.

Yes and one way to avoid the race baiting must be having one of those faces at least be African American. People have to see this as beyond race.
We do need to train people.
We also had a little bit of problems last year with some people who were sort of Prima Donas. They need to cut that out. Whomever is going to be the face of PUMA has to be willing to put ego aside for the good of PUMA.

I totally agree with both comments. Hmg, you are so right about having an AA as the face of the movement, and I think you would be an excellent candidate for this job.

thebword · Super Moderator

Alex wrote:

If we place Country before Party, which I wholeheartedly agree with, we need to place the Constitution before Obama and say (please see signature below). No wonder Riverdaughter is watching people apply make-up. As long as we're not addressing the main problem - that Congress and the Supreme Court installed a non-eligible person into the White House - then there will be NO peace - too many patriotic people aren't going to let this slide!

It's like raving about the furniture arrangement while the house is on fire.

STAMP!!!!